tjohanne
Rock Crawler
I agree it's funny

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I agree it's funny
I guess the pbx/at 1.9 foam is not that type? I find them quite soft.I agree. The new Pitbull foams are rock hard. They don't want to hear it. They said they can't please everybody, which is true, but I think most people agree that they are too stiff for light rigs.
The Vaterra TSLs are harder and definitely don't work as well as Proline tires.
Proline tires are manufactured in the US and they cost half of what Pit Bull tires cost. Pit Bull can't be passing any savings onto the consumer.I agree it's funnybut it's understandable. They could be more open about it, though. Practically everything is made in China. And that's good for us, otherwise very few could afford this hobby.
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It would be nice if they could at least orient the flag correctly. :roll:I agree it's funnybut it's understandable. They could be more open about it, though. Practically everything is made in China. And that's good for us, otherwise very few could afford this hobby.
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At least the Pit Bulls are made in Taiwan and not China. I realize that most people consider it all the same, but in reality it's not. Not only is Taiwan a multi party democracy, but I've found the quality of their products to generally be on par with that of US-made products, and generally far better than equivalent products from China.Proline tires are manufactured in the US and they cost half of what Pit Bull tires cost. Pit Bull can't be passing any savings onto the consumer.
Think about that...
I guess the pbx/at 1.9 foam is not that type? I find them quite soft.
I think a lot of people don't understand that China, or any other Asian company, will manufacture to the standards you demand. If you accept low quality items they will produce low quality items. If you find a vendor that can and will produce high quality items then that is what you'll received.At least the Pit Bulls are made in Taiwan and not China. I realize that most people consider it all the same, but in reality it's not. Not only is Taiwan a multi party democracy, but I've found the quality of their products to generally be on par with that of US-made products, and generally far better than equivalent products from China.
I'm well aware of the notion that they are capable of higher quality, but in talking with a number of importers, it seems that most of them complain that the initial quality is very good, and then it systematically declines slowly to the point where it becomes necessary to do an incoming inspection on every single part if they're critical parts. My understanding is that the Chinese government encourages it's manufacturers to cheapen the product over time as a cost saving measure. There's a story going around of some sort of structural item that's used in building construction that was found to have lost 10% of its mass over the production run.I think a lot of people don't understand that China, or any other Asian company, will manufacture to the standards you demand. If you accept low quality items they will produce low quality items. If you find a vendor that can and will produce high quality items then that is what you'll received.
You can't summarize that vendors in China are worse than vendors in Taiwan.
I wasn't saying you, specifically, didn't know the process.I'm well aware of the notion that they are capable of higher quality, but in talking with a number of importers, it seems that most of them complain that the initial quality is very good, and then it systematically declines slowly to the point where it becomes necessary to do an incoming inspection on every single part if they're critical parts. My understanding is that the Chinese government encourages it's manufacturers to cheapen the product over time as a cost saving measure. There's a story going around of some sort of structural item that's used in building construction that was found to have lost 10% of its mass over the production run.
One importer of speaker drivers that I've talked to said that at one point it got so bad that he had to reject 50% of the drivers he received. His initial rejection percentages were somewhere under 10%. This huge rejection rate pushed his costs up high enough that I believe he eventually found a new manufacturer on a different continent. I certainly don't have first-hand experience with these products, but I have had conversations with the guys who design and contract companies to build their products, and I've heard the same story from most of them, so I tend to believe that it's got some legitimacy. Your mileage may vary.I know that many larger companies have had to resort to putting quality control reps at the factory to help mitigate these issues.
Not sure why the ribbed 'comp' version of the inner core is that way or how it works differently
The 4.0 lil novas are way too soft for the braven iron sides. I got a set with medium outers and the tires look almost flat with the truck just sitting on the bench. Not to be negative but don't get your hopes up. I'd try the 4.25 lil novas with medium or soft outers.
Ben
I agree it's funnybut it's understandable. They could be more open about it, though. Practically everything is made in China. And that's good for us, otherwise very few could afford this hobby.
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Features:
ALIEN Kompound<SUP>TM</SUP> - STICKIER THAN ALIEN SNOT!!! They seem to get better and better as they break in... and you can use them for your daily hobby time as well as competition... RIGHT OUTTA DA BOX!!!!
Multi-varied tread blocks - create an alternating biting pattern for maximum traction, especially in off-camber situations
Inside ribbing - provides sidewall support and stability
Stone Kickers - oh yeah!
Over-the-shoulder lugs - that wrap down the sidewall and add extra strength & traction to the shoulder & sidewall areas
4.19-inch UNMounted Diameter* - 4.19x1.35-1.9. *Dimensions may vary depending on mounted rim width used.
Tires come 2 to a packet w/decals - yes, we include a cool decal sheet
Foam included - OH YEAH!
Made in Taiwan - yes we went overseas for production of these RC tires. Taiwan is a hybrid democracy, so we don't feel too bad about it.
That's great. I.I'm not saying it's impossible, but if everything in my home country should be home grown (Norway), I wouldn't be able to afford drawing breath, basically... China helps us relieve that in certain ways..Proline tires are manufactured in the US and they cost half of what Pit Bull tires cost. Pit Bull can't be passing any savings onto the consumer.
Think about that...
I agree!It would be nice if they could at least orient the flag correctly. :roll:
I agree. I have the same Prolines. Love them!New foams - see my pics above.
The RB 4.45" tires have really nice dual stage foams. The new XL's have this new hard compound gray foam. I shaved down the shoulders of the foams and I think they'll work, but we'll see. Same pic series up-thread.
After comparing the PL Krawlers side by side I'm not as excited about the Pitbulls, although PL's are not any cheaper if you get the discount deal on PB's.
I'm not against that at allCut them some slack. Right from their website.:roll: