"Like" Button

[1BadJeepBruiser]

Editing and restoring the Durango IFS thread was the right thing to do.

However , the big challenge I see with what is happening here is this. Dude blows in from RCC past whining and complaining about what board has become. Like a politician building a platform, begins to talk up his personal RC exploits and how devoted he is to 'making RCC great again' (good grief). Begins to point out all of the issues that he is going to fix(but asks for patience). His first move is to grab the controls and take away a feature on the site he doesn't like, be damned what the current active body thinks of it. To him the 'stats' are more important than our personal experiences here. Again, we are told it is for the betterment of the site (classic) . Here is the biggest problem ; so far all we get is the loss of a feature. The improvements are all pie in the sky at this point.

A far wiser move would have been to create and add visible features to the site as well as bless us with the presence of these vendors (who I assume will be given an incentive and motivation to return. No one is stupid enough to think they will return without them. They are elsewhere for reasons well beyond what the power of the 'like' button carries).

By showing us the results of forward thinking that we can relate to, change is encouraging. Its gains confidence.

It is fine to preach patience, but it is a much more palatable speech if the head it comes from delivers such decorum. The quick removal of the 'like' button was not an act of patience. With patience, in time it could have been updated, modified or replaced with something completely different.

Man I feel like a broken record... all I’m gonna address is the “blows in from RCCs past” I’m not the past, shit at this point I’m not even be the future (trying to give this place a better future), I’m the present...I never left the board, I’ve been here posting just as I always have, and moderating as necessary.

Yes, I talked about my back ground, as many of the guys who were around in the past aren’t, and probably many of the newer members from the past few years may not know me or my back ground. My apologies if that caused you grief... as far as make RCC great again goes... the line was meant to bring some humor, I guess it wasn’t the funny. Noted.

At the end of the day, I’m sure the owners take into account feeback from the membership, but at the end of the day it’s their business and they can choose to run it as they see fit.

The admin powers allow me to address some additional issues, it’s not the end all repair all do all. That would be badger. As far as the vendors go, yes i would love to have them back, at this point though an incentives would be on the owners... which I am not.

Appreciate the feedback

 

[WHITE-TRASH]

Man I feel like a broken record... all I’m gonna address is the “blows in from RCCs past” I’m not the past, shit at this point I’m not even be the future (trying to give this place a better future), I’m the present...I never left the board, I’ve been here posting just as I always have, and moderating as necessary.

Yes, I talked about my back ground, as many of the guys who were around in the past aren’t, and probably many of the newer members from the past few years may not know me or my back ground. My apologies if that caused you grief... as far as make RCC great again goes... the line was meant to bring some humor, I guess it wasn’t the funny. Noted.

At the end of the day, I’m sure the owners take into account feeback from the membership, but at the end of the day it’s their business and they can choose to run it as they see fit.

The admin powers allow me to address some additional issues, it’s not the end all repair all do all. That would be badger. As far as the vendors go, yes i would love to have them back, at this point though an incentives would be on the owners... which I am not.

Appreciate the feedback

I'm not sure why you bothered to even respond to that level of butthurt from someone that obviously doesn't see beyond their own nose.

Let's see where this ride takes us, although I bet the data will be skewed unless the increase 8n replies to the whining threads are taken into account. :lol:

 

[smog]

I'm not sure why you bothered to even respond to that level of butthurt from someone that obviously doesn't see beyond their own nose.

Let's see where this ride takes us, although I bet the data will be skewed unless the increase 8n replies to the whining threads are taken into account. :lol:

Mmm, I think you prefer to see it as ‘butthurt’. In reality it is simply a perspective that stands in opposition to yours.

We are all along for the ride. Doesn’t mean we can’t think and speak for ourselves along the way. You are not the only one here that has an opinion WHITE TRASH"thumbsup"

Edit : Anyway, I have said what I have to say on this topic. I am out.

 

[WHITE-TRASH]

Mmm, I think you prefer to see it as ‘butthurt’. In reality it is simply a perspective that stands in opposition to yours.

We are all along for the ride. Doesn’t mean we can’t think and speak for ourselves along the way. You are not the only one here that has an opinion WHITE TRASH"thumbsup"

I welcome opposing views when they're accompanied by facts and real data rather than opinion and whining.


Pulling the like button is simply an experiment being done with the owners blessing. The likes are still intact and they can be accessed in the drop menu available when you get a PM notification.

Take a deep breath and maybe a half of a xanax and calm down, it'll be ok.

 

[Browneye]

I welcome opposing views when they're accompanied by facts and real data rather than opinion and whining.

>snip

Take a deep breath and maybe a half of a xanax and calm down, it'll be ok.

This is the kind of insulting BS this site doesn't need. It's not even a little bit funny.

 

[WHITE-TRASH]

This is the kind of insulting BS this site doesn't need. It's not even a little bit funny.

You don't find it funny but that doesn't mean nobody else does. Freedom is neat.

 

[Inspector86]

Good God, give it a break people! Mike, maybe it's time to close this thread. Just Sayin.

 

[1BadJeepBruiser]

Good God, give it a break people! Mike, maybe it's time to close this thread. Just Sayin.

Funny you say that, I considered it but then I figured I would be ridiculed for that as well. If people can’t have a civil discussion then I am gonna axe it

 

[WHITE-TRASH]

Funny you say that, I considered it but then I figured I would be ridiculed for that as well. If people can’t have a civil discussion then I am gonna axe it

Some people would complain about being hung with a new rope. Do what you think is right and don't get concerned with the chatter.

 

[CODYBOY]

Good God, give it a break people! Mike, maybe it's time to close this thread. Just Sayin.

OK OK guys, this is starting to sound a little like the Pro-line body thead that blew up! I think some are bending over backwards to stay civil with their responses and there are those that are just being them selves and flinging and standing back to see where it lands. IMO I don't think this thread is being productive in a positive way! So please, everyone just take a deep breath and try to understand what this discussion is about. Does the "like" button help or hurt in making a better build thread? That's it!!! My vote is I like it, I use it as a tool to judge interest in what is being presented. I hate hearing all the negative input and aggressive behavior. I think we should just be happy that someone is trying to be proactive in fixing something that is a little broke. "thumbsup" So...…...I like the "like" button and I even said it without pointing fingers or putting someone down. ;-)
Ernie

 

[Tossedman]

I’m thinking the data will say there are less likes.

 

[Frank211]

OK OK guys, this is starting to sound a little like the Pro-line body thead that blew up! I think some are bending over backwards to stay civil with their responses and there are those that are just being them selves and flinging and standing back to see where it lands. IMO I don't think this thread is being productive in a positive way! So please, everyone just take a deep breath and try to understand what this discussion is about. Does the "like" button help or hurt in making a better build thread? That's it!!! My vote is I like it, I use it as a tool to judge interest in what is being presented. I hate hearing all the negative input and aggressive behavior. I think we should just be happy that someone is trying to be proactive in fixing something that is a little broke. "thumbsup" So...…...I like the "like" button and I even said it without pointing fingers or putting someone down. ;-)
Ernie

Here Here = LIKE !


On another note maybe VOTE ON IT ,
easiest way to settle this !!!

 

[Duuuuuuuude]

I’m thinking the data will say there are less likes.

Shucks, they could be down to levels we haven't seen since before the like button was introduced! It's madness!

 

[Natedog]

OK OK guys, this is starting to sound a little like the Pro-line body thead that blew up! I think some are bending over backwards to stay civil with their responses and there are those that are just being them selves and flinging and standing back to see where it lands. IMO I don't think this thread is being productive in a positive way! So please, everyone just take a deep breath and try to understand what this discussion is about. Does the "like" button help or hurt in making a better build thread? That's it!!! My vote is I like it, I use it as a tool to judge interest in what is being presented. I hate hearing all the negative input and aggressive behavior. I think we should just be happy that someone is trying to be proactive in fixing something that is a little broke. "thumbsup" So...…...I like the "like" button and I even said it without pointing fingers or putting someone down. ;-)
Ernie

Yes! I like this.

 

[JatoTheRipper]

Funny you say that, I considered it but then I figured I would be ridiculed for that as well. If people can’t have a civil discussion then I am gonna axe it

:shock:

I had to check to make sure I was on RCC. When's the last time a thread has been closed for less than civil banter?

I never realized the little "Like" button would create so much discussion. Maybe we need to remove another feature just to get more activity on this site? :ror:

 

[Natedog]

I don't really care, a IDGAF kind of guy, but removing the 'like' feature will do nothing to improve the forum. The most popular forums on the internet ALL have them, the ones that don't are missing it. So whomever made the call is simply unformed.

And the success of or participation in a forum doesn't have to do with a like button, or really any particular feature or function, and much to do with the topics that the members have interest in. Creating 'stuff' is not what drives people.

Additionally, there's nothing 'wrong' with this forum, it's well run (reads: loosely) and there are plenty of participants based on the subject matter. When a forum starts interjecting into everything using a heavy handed moderation then people leave. That's just the way it is.

I have also found that forums are not losing favor, but people come and go in a particular interest. The rise and fall of other social media is independent of forums activity. It's a different platform, so trying to somehow compete would be a folly.

Agreed.

Sucks for someone like me that sometimes takes motivational steam from 'likes'. I don't create cool enough stuff to garner many replies and I don't have enough tech knowledge to feel as if I'm a very valuable member here. Yeah I understand both sides but killing it isn't going to spark traffic nor tech. Even though all the newer guys like me may not bring much to the table, the 'likes' have been many times a sign that I was on the right track and gave me incentive to keep going. This will hurt a lot of new guys when a 'like' is all they really need in order to know that they're doing something safely or correctly. In a lot of instances they won't get a reply so why should they hang around?

Agreed.

...It’s not about externally validating self worth. It’s about supporting without needing to reply.

Durok has a great post tonight about fondling 1/10 off-road tires whilst drooling. Not really any good way to reply to that but I appreciated the comment. I could go for the lazy LOL reply but I’d rather give the guy a lazy Like instead and not clog up the thread.

Like.

X2

...Historically, forums provided 2 very important things: Social interaction, and a repository for information & ideas that was easily accessed. The former has been largely decimated because of Facebook, but the latter is one area where forums have a MAJOR advantage. I think it's a losing battle to try and boost interaction by trying to appeal to people's social tendencies. I think that ship already sailed. It's my opinion that the forum can become most healthy by playing to its strengths. Promote build threads and technical exchange.

Here are a couple ideas:



2. Encourage vendors to do product announcements & giveaways here. Every time a vendor does a giveaway, the thread gets huge.

3. Start a "news" section of the forum that's devoted just to emerging product announcements & vendor news. This can even be bot-populated like it was on Ultimate RC. It creates a concise location for this sort of thing, which can help stimulate discussion.

4. Bite the bullet and create an RCC Facebook page, instagram page, & twitter account. There's a shitload of people on FB crawler groups who don't know about and/or don't use RCC. It's time to get some of them to come here, and FB is the way to do it. ESPECIALLY if they realize that RCC offers something that FB doesn't (As I mentioned above). Other forums are successful in doing this. There can be all of the non-tech/social conversation & pic whoring imaginable on the FB group to build membership, and then certain items such as the build of the month winner mentioned above, tech nuggets, and selected vendor posts that can be brought over to FB with links back here. There's software out there that will automatically push forum content to those platforms. When I ran an IROC-Z forum my admin had some sort of script set up that pushed some of our forum highlights to those platforms and it brought people to the forum. Even if it was used JUST for Build Of The Month and Vendor giveaway threads, it would still be useful for getting new people here.

Agreed.

I do my own bit of promoting whenever crawling or on FB - if peeps are asking about making their rig better I tell them all the answers are on rccrawler.com.
We even put the url on our event t-shirts - we want peeps to know about this place if they're in the hobby. I find it interesting that every time I post the url in FB it inserts a thing in there about axialfest. Or some such. Anyway, this place is WAAAAAYYYYY mobetta than any FB thread. But all the crawling activity for meet ups and club events is there. The pace of interaction is much shallower and much faster there. It is not my cup of tea, but interesting to meet up with local crawlers so it's worth the hassle. IMO this forum is far more interesting and engaging than FB ever hoped to be.

I have not been to SBG nor do I have a desire to. I have a dozen or so sites that I follow on a regular basis. I type 80wpm and work in software and network setup for my job. It's nothing to pop in here and see what's going on. And there are a great bunch of mellow people here. It is one of the most friendly forums I've posted in. So far everybody I've met IRL is really terrific as well.

So many other forums just turn into bitch sessions and bickering. It gets really old after while. Some people are just negative. This the only forum I belong to that I don't have at least somebody on ignore. It is always an option for anybody that is just constantly obnoxious. Those are people a section mod can ping and just tell them to knock it off or they'll get a vacation. Another forum calls it 'band camp' :lmao:
If yer bad ya get to go to banned-camp. :mrgreen:

Agreed and I always refer people I meet while out crawling to RCCrawler.com too.

Editing and restoring the Durango IFS thread was the right thing to do.

...Here is the biggest problem ; so far all we get is the loss of a feature. The improvements are all pie in the sky at this point.

A far wiser move would have been to create and add visible features to the site as well as bless us with the presence of these vendors (who I assume will be given an incentive and motivation to return. No one is stupid enough to think they will return without them. They are elsewhere for reasons well beyond what the power of the 'like' button carries).

By showing us the results of forward thinking that we can relate to, change is encouraging. Its gains confidence.

It is fine to preach patience, but it is a much more palatable speech if the head it comes from delivers such decorum. The quick removal of the 'like' button was not an act of patience. With patience, in time it could have been updated, modified or replaced with something completely different.

Agreed.

:shock:

I had to check to make sure I was on RCC. When's the last time a thread has been closed for less than civil banter?

I never realized the little "Like" button would create so much discussion. Maybe we need to remove another feature just to get more activity on this site? :ror:

LOL "thumbsup"

 

[Greatscott]

I know it hasn't been that long sense the forums 'Like' function went by way of the dodo, but who else still looks in the upper right had corner of their screen when they first bring up RCC?

 

[mewalsh100]

As per my last diatribe on the subject, I LIKED the LIKE button. If you saw something that was interesting or you LIKED the way someone handled a particular issue, and really did not have anything to add, then LIKE. if you REALLY LIKED something, you could LIKE it and also comment on it / add to the thread. Frankly, I don't see eliminating the LIKE button increasing traffic - unless of course you take in to account the recent rash of posts where people simply typed "LIKE". :lmao:

I'll continue to post and participate here regardless. The above is just my .02 pesos on the subject. "thumbsup" I absolutely loathe FB, so this is my outlet for ALL things RC.

 

[CODYBOY]

I know it hasn't been that long sense the forums 'Like' function went by way of the dodo, but who else still looks in the upper right had corner of their screen when they first bring up RCC?

Agreed.



Agreed.



X2



Agreed.



Agreed and I always refer people I meet while out crawling to RCCrawler.com too.



Agreed.



LOL "thumbsup"

As per my last diatribe on the subject, I LIKED the LIKE button. If you saw something that was interesting or you LIKED the way someone handled a particular issue, and really did not have anything to add, then LIKE. if you REALLY LIKED something, you could LIKE it and also comment on it / add to the thread. Frankly, I don't see eliminating the LIKE button increasing traffic - unless of course you take in to account the recent rash of posts where people simply typed "LIKE". :lmao:

I'll continue to post and participate here regardless. The above is just my .02 pesos on the subject. "thumbsup" I absolutely loathe FB, so this is my outlet for ALL things RC.

Like

 

[mewalsh100]

I know it hasn't been that long sense the forums 'Like' function went by way of the dodo, but who else still looks in the upper right had corner of their screen when they first bring up RCC?

Only about 20 times since it was eliminated.:shock: