On an totally different note: Is there a Sorrca Class Zero thread or rules or anything?
Facebook group, rules in the pinned post.
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On an totally different note: Is there a Sorrca Class Zero thread or rules or anything?
You are the one flaming with your "50 lbs" axles.
Facebook group, rules in the pinned post.
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No help with the flatbed questions???"thumbsup"
On an totally different note: Is there a Sorrca Class Zero thread or rules or anything?
I have a question about flat beds. This flat bed is wider than the top of the cab. I built this before I took a good look at the rules. Does it meet the spirt of the flat bed rule. Wasn't trying to bend the rules. Also all of the bed is metal but the deck, which is a piece of cherry wood. Most of the older decks were built from wood decks. Would it get full flat bed points?
Thanks for your help."thumbsup""thumbsup"
Ernie
I have a question about flat beds. This flat bed is wider than the top of the cab. I built this before I took a good look at the rules. Does it meet the spirt of the flat bed rule. Wasn't trying to bend the rules. Also all of the bed is metal but the deck, which is a piece of cherry wood. Most of the older decks were built from wood decks. Would it get full flat bed points?
Thanks for your help."thumbsup""thumbsup"
Ernie
I don't see why you couldn't dovetail flatbeds too. So that flatbed should be perfectly legal in C2. Atleast that's how I have always judged it.Dovetailing the rear *a truggy/tube bed that is narrower than the cab counts as a dovetail*
Thanks, for the help, I won't be concerned any more. And good luck to you also at nats. Your bug is a great build!"thumbsup"It was already discussed back around post #248 "thumbsup"
Thanks, for the help, I won't be concerned any more. And good luck to you also at nats. Your bug is a great build!"thumbsup"
Ernie
Its up to the event promoter ultimately, for evergreen scale nats it is exactly that.Are scale points maxed at 60 for C1 and 50 for C2, C3 still?
Do you know how stupid that sounds? Not the reasoning for banning them. The unscale advantage phrase. Because know because my 71 bronco can rock back and forth on its side and magically jump back on all fours. Yep thats scale right there.All this just because some people did put knuckle weights in their scalers to gain an unscale advantage.
If you have a better reason then please enlighten me. Or are you saying knuckle weights are scale and they offer no performance advantage? Are the comp crawler guys putting knuckle weights on to make their crawlers more scale?Do you know how stupid that sounds? Not the reasoning for banning them. The unscale advantage phrase.
Nothing magical about it. Just physics. You can do it with 1:1 vehicles too. Ever watch rock bouncers or real comp crawlers?Because know because my 71 bronco can rock back and forth on its side and magically jump back on all fours. Yep thats scale right there.
If you have a better reason then please enlighten me. Or are you saying knuckle weights are scale and they offer no performance advantage? Are the comp crawler guys putting knuckle weights on to make their crawlers more scale?
Nothing magical about it. Just physics. You can do it with 1:1 vehicles too. Ever watch rock bouncers or real comp crawlers?
But what has that got to do with knuckle weights?
I can't remember whether it was in the old SORRCA rules but our old Finnish rules gave the roll over penalty when ever a vehicle rolled. Whether it landed on its wheels or not. We found it a bit problematic where to draw the line between leaning on something and rolling over. If a vehicle is on it's side on flat ground then there was no problem it had rolled. But our courses were not on flat ground. So basically a vehicle could be leaning on a rock with only two tires on the ground and just drive on. At what point will the change occur from leaning to rolling? What about if you are starting to roll and you save it by using throttle and steering? (Just like 1:1 comp crawlers) At which point has the vehicle rolled and you receive the penalty if at the end it stays on it's wheels? Is it "if any other part than the wheels touch the ground"? Then it would be a roll over penalty even if all four tires were on the ground and you would drive under a rock ledge that your cage scrapes against.
The SORRCA rule is simple. If you can drive out it's not a roll. If you can't then it's a roll.
But if you want to go full ret... I mean scale then you better make an interior and driver mandatory in all classes. I don't think your magical bronco can drive itself without a driver. What about electric motors? Not many 1:1 crawlers with those. How about steering? Don't think there are many crawlers where the steering wheel is not attached to the vehicle.
This is scale RC crawling. The reason is given multiple times in these rule threads. Doesn't anybody read these? Just do a search of the Scale Comp Rules area with "knuckle weights" you'll find plenty of arguing about them. Even previously in this thread.