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Another school shooting

So as citizens, we should all give up our weapons so when criminals deside to victimize us, they won't be able to steal our guns and use them to victimize others?

Pure geniuse! :roll:
I didn't say that.

assumption not based on facts.
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Well they obviouslly were accessible. Whether he just picked it up off the dinning room table or had a combo to a safe... he used his mothers guns.
 
Seriously?
You know how to crack a safe... I don't.

Plasma cutter will cut most open with ease. Metal & sub zero temps dont work well together hell most padlocks won't hold up to a can of comp cleaning air & a hammer.
Open your mind, if someone can fabricate the material to hold something the same technology can be used to break it.

Have you seen the tennis ball trick? Look it up on youtube, you will be enlightened.

http://www.millerwelds.com/products/metalcutting/plasma.php

Most gun safes are less that 7/8" steel.
 
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I never had a need to though my dad had a safe seize up in the lock mechanism and we spent about 25 minutes with a drill and had the "Crack proof" safe open, some shithead doing some searching on the web could figure it out though I'm sure.
These people did'nt wake up this morning and decide "I'll become a criminal today".


Seriously?
You know how to crack a safe... I don't.
 
Plasma cutter will cut most open with ease. Metal & sub zero temps dont work well together hell most padlocks won't hold up to a can of comp cleaning air & a hammer.
Open your mind, if someone can fabricate the material to hold something the same technology can be used to break it.

Have you seen the tennis ball trick? Look it up on youtube, you will be enlightened.

I feel that your really reaching with the plasma cutter... I'm going home now.
 
When do we stop blaming the owners of the fire arms or the fire arms themselves and start blaming the adult criminals that steal them and then use them to commit violence against others?
 
I am pretty ne round here but I thought this type of stuff was excactly what the chit chat section was for (endless BS.)

What I meant was there is no need to quote the multiple paragraphs that are posted if you're only referencing a particular sentence or thought from another. It's the same as people quoting ten pictures to say they like the one.

It's not a mod thing, it's a courtesy thing.
 
That's the mentality of the liberal minded agenda in our country, no one is to blame but society itself, blame the gun not the shooter, blame the alcohol not the drinker, blame the whatever not the person, unless of course they think differant than them , then it's your fault.


When do we stop blaming the owners of the fire arms or the fire arms themselves and start blaming the adult criminals that steal them and then use them to commit violence against others?
 
Most affordable home safe bodies are made with 12 gauge steel. A 4 inch grinder with a cut off wheel can open it like a can of peaches.

I bought a brand new Makita cordless angle grinder last fall. Where do you live?:ror:
 
When do we stop blaming the owners of the fire arms or the fire arms themselves and start blaming the adult criminals that steal them and then use them to commit violence against others?

I'm on my cell phone...

The kid is 100% responsible for both the theft and murders.
But, his mother inadvertently (I assume) enabled him.
 
That's the mentality of the liberal minded agenda in our country, no one is to blame but society itself, blame the gun not the shooter, blame the alcohol not the drinker, blame the whatever not the person, unless of course they think differant than them , then it's your fault.

I guess that you assume I am Liberal... but I personally think that statement is just silly and anyone with common sense, despite political affiliation, would also think that's silly.
 
That's the mentality of the liberal minded agenda in our country, no one is to blame but society itself, blame the gun not the shooter, blame the alcohol not the drinker, blame the whatever not the person, unless of course they think differant than them , then it's your fault.

While this is another can o' worms, I hate hearing when someone does something wrong and was drunk while doing so, "But I was drunk".

Back on track now.
 
The original gun owner didn't have them locked up... and should have.



The kid is 100% responsible for both the theft and murders.
But, his mother inadvertently (I assume) enabled him.

What kid are you referring to?

To my knowledge, most of the individuals committing these acts are adults.

Enough with poor kid BS! Most of the members of our armed services are in the same age range!
 
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ugh, I never said poor kid.
My point was the guns did not belong to him, he stole them from his mother.

EDIT: the Sandy shooter
 
If the shoe fits :ror:,,,,,,,,I was just stating my opinion.
I don't see or hear for that matter, any conservative thinking individuals making excuses for criminals.

I guess that you assume I am Liberal... but I personally think that statement is just silly and anyone with common sense, despite political affiliation, would also think that's silly.
 
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