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Blu-ray vs. HD DVD.

I have to say the system that can Play standard DVD's will be the one to win. I really would hate to have to replace my 100+ dvd collection at a higher price no less, or have 2 machines sitting under my TV. I doubt Sony has enough power to pull off a conversion like that. Mini Disk, or Super CD'd for an example, Just wasn't popular enough with the people who already had everything on cd and didn't want to up grade their entire collection especially after MP3's came to be popular then the Ipod:shock:. I Think that in the end HD DVD will take the market especially if manufacturers don't have to pay as much for the use of the technology. I'm really interested to see what the computer market picks as a standard for Pc's and Mac's
 
In all honesty, I don't see the need for another movie disc format. Now that there are companies like NetFlix and even TiVo offering instant movie rentals over the internet, I'd be perfectly content with downloading all of my movies and saving them on a hard drive or something for one big movie database.

well that brings up another side I never even thought of. they have media players out that do pretty much that from what I am told. could one media player play both BR and HD if they were downloaded in either format?

my brother has a xbox 360 and downloads HD movies to it, they seem to be great quailty. is there the same service for bluray?

one terabyte will hold alot of movies.:shock:
 
Well there is a difference between HD-DVD and BR.. mainly in the coding. And no there are no multi-format players. But the other thing is HDCP. If you don't have the TV, the player and the cables, it doesn't mean jack.
 
I have to say the system that can Play standard DVD's will be the one to win. I really would hate to have to replace my 100+ dvd collection at a higher price no less, or have 2 machines sitting under my TV. I doubt Sony has enough power to pull off a conversion like that.


Both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD players upconvert standard DVDs so they look better.

You can also buy standalone upconverters for standard DVD. While not the quality of HD-DVD or Blu-Ray, they do make a difference in how a standard DVD looks.

Another reason I think HD-DVD will win...everyone knows what HD is...everyone knows what DVD is...So they'll automatically know what HD-DVD is.

How much of the population knows what Blu-Ray is?
 
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I was at best buy this weekend and was actually really suprised to see the blu ray section doubled in size over the last month. It was actually bigger than the HD DVD section for the first time ever. Personally I am a blu ray guy, PS3 comes with it so "thumbsup"
 
I was at best buy this weekend and was actually really suprised to see the blu ray section doubled in size over the last month. It was actually bigger than the HD DVD section for the first time ever. Personally I am a blu ray guy, PS3 comes with it so "thumbsup"


Funny you mention that. I noticed a similar thing today at my local WalMart. The BluRay selection was almost double the HD one.
 
Yeah, I noticed that at Best Buy today.

I bought a PS3 but won't bother picking up a Blu-Ray or HD-DVD specific player.

You can get add-on HD-DVD drives for the Xbox 360, but the PS3 already has Blu-Ray.
 
Yeah, I noticed that at Best Buy today.

I bought a PS3 but won't bother picking up a Blu-Ray or HD-DVD specific player.

You can get add-on HD-DVD drives for the Xbox 360, but the PS3 already has Blu-Ray.

ok, I think I have talked myself into a PS3. With the five free dvd deal at circut city it is like getting the console for 299. a standard bluray player costs 299+ so it is like getting a gaming console for free. correct? there is no other difference in quailty (audio or video)

now my question is is it worth getting the 80gb HDD? or just stick with the 40gb? I plan on using it mostly for a BD player and somewhat for a gamer... possibly COD4 (I like FPS games)

Also, I have read that ps3 supports 7.1. since I am also looking for a new home threatre, should I look in this direction? or just stick to 5.1 (HT-SS200) My room is already wired for 5.1, rewiring will be a pain, but not out of hand.

can anyone suggest a good 7.1 system in a box? I have read till my eyes bleed at avsforums.com.

p!nK
 
Well if you get the 40GB PS3($399), you get a free copy of Blu-Ray Spider-Man 3 as well, so think of it like 6 free Blu-Ray movies. And yeah, I'd totaly say its worth it. And the beauty about the PS3, you can upgrade the HDD and not void the warranty.

I'd stick with the 5.1 set up you have unless you really want a 7.1 system.

And on another note, yes there are larger Blu-Ray selections at the stores and BlockBuster announced some time ago that it would be Blu-Ray only when it comes to HD movie rentals.
 
My only thought on using the PS3 heavily for a Blu-Ray player and an on again off again game system (which I totally agree with) is the older issues with Sony and their drive life.

My original PS died due to a drive failure from too much playing seemed to be the only answer that Sony would issue. My PS2 had some read errors alot and finally gave up reading games or DVD's Sent it to Sony, same thing, drive optical failure. After that I moved to the other Box.

Another thing to ponder on a BR player. Will a Sony BR player or PS3 play a burned movie? My friend used to copy DVD's and they'd never play in a brand new Sony DVD player, but my $30 Wal-Mart special worked. He switched away and is fine now. I point this out not for the lack of piracy support but that same player would also not play his burned legal home movies he authored. Again played fine in my Cheap DVD player and my XBox and XBox 360.

If someone has the ability to test a Sony or PS3 BR player playing a burned legal or pirated DVD disc, please let me know.
 
The thing is, sometime when a movie is burned it needs a special codec system like DivX... and good news the PS3 will be getting DivX support sometime soon. But as of current, I'm not so sure if they can play burned DVD's or not. But again, I think it comes down to format.
 
Also, I do not watch movies alot at all. Maaaaaybe once a week max. Just when I do watch a movie- I want it to look good. I spend most of my time out in my shop burning shit.

Not really too concerned about the copied movies either. If I want a movie, I buy it.

no one answered my video audio quailty question. is it the same as a stand alone BRD player?
 
Bypass the format war all together and Check out VuDu. It's a set top box that delivers movies over your net connection in HD. You can rent or buy movies, no subscription fees... you just have to purchase the box... and it's cheaper than most decent HD players.
 
Let me be the one to say it here...and mark my words, this WILL happen. There will be NO clear cut winner in the BR/HDDVD battle. One format will not suddenly disappear leaving the other as the clear winner. Each side has too much money backing their media preference. Neither format, technically speaking, is better than the other. Each type delivers 1080p video and up to 7.1 surround. BR might give you access to fancier menus and a couple more behind-the-scene features. But, if you're like the majority of folks out there, you'll watch the bonus stuff once or twice and then never watch it again. The big thing going for HDDVD right now is the fact that since it uses the same basic setup (red laser) as standard DVD playback, the players are cheaper (Toshiba HD-A3 for less than $200) and that's about it.

If you are willing to wait a few months to get a player, hold off for a dual-format player, if you want an all-in-one solution to the debate. There are a couple on the market right now, but they are more cost prohibitive than buying one of each of the players, which is a very valid option if your TV has enough HDMI or component inputs to support a couple of standalone players.
 
Let me be the one to say it here...and mark my words, this WILL happen. There will be NO clear cut winner in the BR/HDDVD battle. One format will not suddenly disappear leaving the other as the clear winner. Each side has too much money backing their media preference. Neither format, technically speaking, is better than the other. Each type delivers 1080p video and up to 7.1 surround. BR might give you access to fancier menus and a couple more behind-the-scene features. But, if you're like the majority of folks out there, you'll watch the bonus stuff once or twice and then never watch it again. The big thing going for HDDVD right now is the fact that since it uses the same basic setup (red laser) as standard DVD playback, the players are cheaper (Toshiba HD-A3 for less than $200) and that's about it.

If you are willing to wait a few months to get a player, hold off for a dual-format player, if you want an all-in-one solution to the debate. There are a couple on the market right now, but they are more cost prohibitive than buying one of each of the players, which is a very valid option if your TV has enough HDMI or component inputs to support a couple of standalone players.

this was exactly the train of thought leading me towards a PS3. My Tv only has one HDMI input, but the surround sound I am getting features 3 inputs so that makes it a non issue. Hook the PS3 up for bluray and gaming, then get a HD-DVD down the road if I so choose. I am glad the XBOX does not have a HD player in it from the factory, that would make this decision that much harder.

As for the VuDU setup, interesting idea. I want to give that some more time before I jump into it. I still like the idea of being able to take my movies with me from room to room, house to house, wherever. If they add a burner option then it would be very attractive, I doubt that will happen though due to copyright laws.

keep the ideas coming, I havent bought anything yet!

p!nK
 
pink - is your surround sound an A/V receiver? If so, thats the best option.

PS3 > HDMI cable > Receiver > HDMI cable > HDTV "thumbsup"
 
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