Broken gears before I even made it outside to try out my XR10

[ThinkTank]

Ungrateful??
You ignorant little punk.

I didnt relize they were giving these away?? I paid for mine.

Oh, I thought you were complaining given your self entitlement screw others character. My mistake.

 

[jcboof]

The only entitlement that I see is the fact that the people who spent their hard earned money on this kit to get what they paid for. A reliable competition ready kit that you can build and drive without catastrophic gear and bearing failures before it even gets on the rocks......

If Vanquish made a kit to repair this issue and suddenly there is another issue regarding their repair kit, don't you think that they would be on top of it?? Without one dout in my mind. They would pull their item and not put it back on the market until the issue is resolved. Its called looking out for the consumer. A company gets a bad rap for not taking care of people.

If chevy made a car that wouldn't drive unless it had ford parts in it, don't you think that Chevy should investigate and revise the issue????

 

[T-buck]

Oh, I thought you were complaining given your self entitlement screw others character. My mistake.

Read my post's... I started out pointing out your experience... or lack of.

Then my "rig" was even complimented by other member as one that worked well.

Where is my complaining??

Oh, I thought you were complaining given your self entitlement screw others character. My mistake.

Yeah again you know me?? The kid in you just keep's showing itself.

 

[T-buck]

If chevy made a car that wouldn't drive unless it had ford parts in it, don't you think that Chevy should investigate and revise the issue????

100% Agree.

Exactly as we discussed at IHobby over the Wk-End.

 

[ThinkTank]

If Vanquish made a kit to repair this issue and suddenly there is another issue regarding their repair kit, don't you think that they would be on top of it?? Without one dout in my mind. They would pull their item and not put it back on the market until the issue is resolved. Its called looking out for the consumer. A company gets a bad rap for not taking care of people.

That is true, I concede that one. I can understand Axial's silence aggravates people. I was under the impression Vanquish was undertaking the fix at Axial's request given their close relationship.

If chevy made a car that wouldn't drive unless it had ford parts in it, don't you think that Chevy should investigate and revise the issue????

No, Chevy should use Ford parts to begin with.

Yeah again you know me?? The kid in you just keep's showing itself.

I apologized, is that not sufficient? I've based my guess of your comments in chit chat. You're the jerk you intend to be, you should feel complemented. "thumbsup"

 

[dpdsurf]

I love that more than one of you have now compared Axial to billion dollar car companies. :lmao::lmao::lmao:

How many of you have received replacement parts from Axial and broken those as well? Even the billion dollar car companies get 3 chances to fix a problem, and on an INDIVIDUAL basis. You don't know the numbers so stop insisting there's a problem worthy of a recall.

 

[jcboof]

I love that more than one of you have now compared Axial to billion dollar car companies. :lmao::lmao::lmao:

How many of you have received replacement parts from Axial and broken those as well? Even the billion dollar car companies get 3 chances to fix a problem, and on an INDIVIDUAL basis. You don't know the numbers so stop insisting there's a problem worthy of a recall.

It was just a simple comparison, please don't look into it that far.
I never once said that there should be a recall, simply that in the future production of the units, that consideration be made on resolving the issue.

The problem is not worthy of a recall, just a little acknowledgement that there is an issue, and hopefully an answer as to whether or not the issue is being looked into being resolved.


I just can't believe that so many of you are think that this is not an issue.

Axial did one hell of a job with this truck, they just need to step to make it better in the future. The lack of support and acknowledgement of this issue has dissuaded many people from getting one already. I for one would like one but I'm not solely basing my decision on holding off for now on this problem. When I do buy one, I will perform the necessary tasks to remedy the issue before it happens and not think twice about it.

 

[Barry G]

If Axial put out a $400 dollar rig it probably wouldn't be having these quality control issues and we wouldn't be arguing so much about it. Know what? I still would have bought it even though it cost more than the other rigs out there. I bet the rest of you would have bought it too. Plainly that $300 price point was a tough goal to make. We can probably all agree that it'll be a sweet rig once the problems are solved, whether by Axial or the aftermarket.

 

[dpdsurf]

It was just a simple comparison, please don't look into it that far.
I never once said that there should be a recall, simply that in the future production of the units, that consideration be made on resolving the issue.

The problem is not worthy of a recall, just a little acknowledgement that there is an issue, and hopefully an answer as to whether or not the issue is being looked into being resolved.


I just can't believe that so many of you are think that this is not an issue.

Axial did one hell of a job with this truck, they just need to step to make it better in the future. The lack of support and acknowledgement of this issue has dissuaded many people from getting one already. I for one would like one but I'm not solely basing my decision on holding off for now on this problem. When I do buy one, I will perform the necessary tasks to remedy the issue before it happens and not think twice about it.

I just wouldn't expect them to acknowledge anything on a messageboard just like a major automobile company would not. ;-) I would contact them.

No, I really don't think it's that big of an issue. I'm just guessing, but I think there was a bad batch of gears packaged in the first batch of kits. I broke gears, they sent me new gears, and I've had zero problems since. Now if I kept breaking gears I'd be upset. Like the countless gears and spurs in my Associated SC10, I'm done with that POS. :evil::ror:

 

[BEELZEBOB]

I just can't believe that so many of you are think that this is not an issue.

its not that we see it as a non issue.

its just that opposed to regurgitationg a bunch of rhetoric and opinions, calling other people assholes, blah bla blah and what ever other puss ass perspective you wanna throw on the boards day after day after day.......

We fixed it."thumbsup"

some people such as yourself find a need to bitch about it over and over....

I am just driving the shit out of my XR10

And A lot of us are enjoying the shit out of the XR10 and watching it walk all over bergs and bullies.


It is most deffinatly an issue. (An issue that has been addressed a 1000 fawking times)

and its with in your means to fix it.

the way the truck comes to me is outside of my control. so i dont worry about it.


but apparently their are a lot of lil bitches that need some extra help!

 

[BFGcrawler418]

Pretty sad another company must come up with a fix for the manufacturers poor designing & layout. I love my XR10 but these cheap little petty repairs are the type that will piss someone off and make them get out of this hobby. Ive done the 9MM upgrade but this should not be something that is absolutely needed just to drive the damn thing around in the house.

Like I said why doesnt axial stop giving their dumb little green course markers in order to bring the cost of the kit down just so they can buck up and buy some better bearings or buy a reamer so that they can hold some type of tolerance on the motor plate? Since cost seems to be the issue this could easily make up for the extra cost.

 

[articzap]

The only entitlement that I see is the fact that the people who spent their hard earned money on this kit to get what they paid for. A reliable competition ready kit that you can build and drive without catastrophic gear and bearing failures before it even gets on the rocks......

If Vanquish made a kit to repair this issue and suddenly there is another issue regarding their repair kit, don't you think that they would be on top of it?? Without one dout in my mind. They would pull their item and not put it back on the market until the issue is resolved. Its called looking out for the consumer. A company gets a bad rap for not taking care of people.

If chevy made a car that wouldn't drive unless it had ford parts in it, don't you think that Chevy should investigate and revise the issue????

Apparently you didn't read my post in this thread another chevy and their cobalt transmission mounts that could lead to failure of axles or transmission case. Why don't you go re-read and realize this issue is no different from that.

 

[BEELZEBOB]

Pretty sad another company must come up with a fix for the manufacturers poor designing & layout. I love my XR10 but these cheap little petty repairs are the type that will piss someone off and make them get out of this hobby. Ive done the 9MM upgrade but this should not be something that is absolutely needed just to drive the damn thing around in the house.

Like I said why doesnt axial stop giving their dumb little green course markers in order to bring the cost of the kit down just so they can buck up and buy some better bearings or buy a reamer so that they can hold some type of tolerance on the motor plate? Since cost seems to be the issue this could easily make up for the extra cost.

throw it away dude.

a reamer is just too much to use. God, you're so right, fixing and wrenching suck balls.

its like, why would i EVER want to work on my truck!!!???!!!

suck it up and fix it, or go home

 

[Jeepkid]

Everyone that is bitching about this is just funny:lmao: You are on here bitching, and us guys that have fixed the issue. By our selves, at home, on our work bench. And your broke rigs sit. At home on your work bench. Just get VP bushings or do the 9mm treatment. I did the 9mm treatment to the rear. A buddy of mine is doing the 9mm in his assembly of the XR, so I took his stock bearings. Lock tited them in the front, let the plate sit. The bearings dont move at all. Now its time to destroy some bearings and see how long they can last. Oh and look at this video of a guy that breaks his transfer gear in a hard ass bind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_NBC8ELiQY
That is hardcore and the kit was assembled properly.

 

[sally1800]

If chevy made a car that wouldn't drive unless it had ford parts in it, don't you think that Chevy should investigate and revise the issue????

It kinda seam a s Axial and Vanquish made a trade. "Vanquish" I let you guys you my wheel weight design and you let us fix you lemon"


Just be glad you guys did buy a Rock Force :lmao:

 

[Jeepkid]

Just be glad you guys did buy a Rock Force :lmao:[/QUOTE]
This is a true statement."thumbsup"

 

[Chargerguy]

Actually that bearing is in the 4link carrier attached to the motor plate and sits on top of this axle half, it is self contained and you wouldnt see it in this view.

What you think is a bearing carrier is just a casting in the housing and is for nothing, there are several such places that looks like a bearing could go but I assume are just weight saving/brace type areas.

My question is the hole in the final gears bearing support on the left...Im searcing me brains and don't recall a hole being there...:?:

in this pic, where is the bearing that is supposed to rest at the end of the gear shaft on the far left?

i see grease, but no bearing.

thats your issue right there"thumbsup"

 

[jcboof]

its not that we see it as a non issue.

its just that opposed to regurgitationg a bunch of rhetoric and opinions, calling other people assholes, blah bla blah and what ever other puss ass perspective you wanna throw on the boards day after day after day.......

We fixed it."thumbsup"

some people such as yourself find a need to bitch about it over and over....

I am just driving the shit out of my XR10

And A lot of us are enjoying the shit out of the XR10 and watching it walk all over bergs and bullies.


It is most deffinatly an issue. (An issue that has been addressed a 1000 fawking times)

and its with in your means to fix it.

the way the truck comes to me is outside of my control. so i dont worry about it.


but apparently their are a lot of lil bitches that need some extra help!

As much as I regularly enjoy you candor, you forgot the most important part.

I like fresh scented maxi pads, that way my vagina stays fresh smelling. "thumbsup"

I'm not bitching up a tree that is not climbable. I'm not bitching at all, just trying to convey the idea that there is a problem that needs to be addressed.

Sure we can all fix our trucks and live in a happy world, but its the people thate are not prepared or capable of performing the necessary modifications needed to keep their trucks going. This is a hobby, yes I understand this. Our toys are designed to be tinkered with and repaired as needed. Most of us, myself included are more than capable and have the resources needed to do what we need to. But to rely to have someone who is struggling financially and saving up every last penny they have to put together a comp kit like this only to be burdened with more expenses due to loose tolerances and some inferior quality parts. The kit as a whole is great, a few parts are ruining the experienc for some though.

And to have people come on here telling the new guys to quit bitching and to suck it up is no way to help the hobby grow. The new guys are helping fund this hobby, just as us more experienced members are. If I was a new guy coming to the site looking for help and had someone who I would look up to for help tell me to quit bitching and suck it up, I would definitely think twice about wanting to continue. We were all new guys once.

We are all here to help eachother if we can, sometimes attitudes and superiority complexes cloud the whole process. Not saying that things always go down like that but just because someone joined 3 months ago and only has 30 posts doesn't mean he doesn't deserve the same quality of help and respect that someone who as been on for a few years with a 1000 or so posts.

 

[BFGcrawler418]

throw it away dude.

a reamer is just too much to use. God, you're so right, fixing and wrenching suck balls.

its like, why would i EVER want to work on my truck!!!???!!!

suck it up and fix it, or go home

Mines fixed and sitting on my desk

 

[xv-townboy]

As much as I regularly enjoy you candor, you forgot the most important part.

I like fresh scented maxi pads, that way my vagina stays fresh smelling. "thumbsup"

I'm not bitching up a tree that is not climbable. I'm not bitching at all, just trying to convey the idea that there is a problem that needs to be addressed.

Sure we can all fix our trucks and live in a happy world, but its the people thate are not prepared or capable of performing the necessary modifications needed to keep their trucks going. This is a hobby, yes I understand this. Our toys are designed to be tinkered with and repaired as needed. Most of us, myself included are more than capable and have the resources needed to do what we need to. But to rely to have someone who is struggling financially and saving up every last penny they have to put together a comp kit like this only to be burdened with more expenses due to loose tolerances and some inferior quality parts. The kit as a whole is great, a few parts are ruining the experienc for some though.

And to have people come on here telling the new guys to quit bitching and to suck it up is no way to help the hobby grow. The new guys are helping fund this hobby, just as us more experienced members are. If I was a new guy coming to the site looking for help and had someone who I would look up to for help tell me to quit bitching and suck it up, I would definitely think twice about wanting to continue. We were all new guys once.

We are all here to help eachother if we can, sometimes attitudes and superiority complexes cloud the whole process. Not saying that things always go down like that but just because someone joined 3 months ago and only has 30 posts doesn't mean he doesn't deserve the same quality of help and respect that someone who as been on for a few years with a 1000 or so posts.

Great post right there..The mere fact that we can buy a $300 crawler of this caliber is due in large part to the growing popularity of the sport/hobby.And you can in part thank the newcomer for that ;-).I'm fairly new to the crawler aspect of the hobby myself but been around RC for many years.Helis are another great example of affordability.There was a time not long ago if you werent in a certain higher income tax bracket you simply could not afford one.

Some of the big know it all egos on here i can see being a definate turn off to the new comer.And that is just not good for the overall well being of the sport/hobby in general

There has been some good points brought up on both sides and thats how these discussions should ideally go.

I have yet to run my XR and i'm not to concerned about the issues personally as i have done alot of reading.But i'm also understandnig of the fact that not everyone feels that way.

To call everyone a whiner that is not 100% happy is just not right.