External to internal shock springs

[Krazyhorse]

I am making my axial scorpion into a tuber.
It requires changing the external shock springs to internal.
It seems to me that the shocks with internal springs would work completely opposite of external spring shocks.???

 

[Jus]

Yes going to internal springs is called a droop setup. It's all I run and I love it. Your rig will run with the chassis settled down onto the suspension and when it articulates the suspension flexes downwards instead of upwards. Keeps the center of gravity low and is very stable. You adjust the ride height by how much you allow the shock to close with fuel tubing or what I use is the Axial rubber spacers that work great for setting up these shocks.

The more weight you have in your axles/tires the better this setup will work. The tires will be pulling down against the pressure of your internal springs and this keeps the tires in contact with the ground on uneven terrain you'll see very quickly if it's working right or not.

Good luck and enjoy setting up your rig it's half the fun of this hobby. "thumbsup"

 

[Krazyhorse]

Excellent info thank you.
thats what i needed to know.
going to rebuild my shocks tonight.

 

[Krazyhorse]

you mention weights. right now im running an axial scorpion.
Im using 44magnum bullets, theu slide into my rims nice and tight i was going to just weight the front, and see how she is and then maybe all 4.

My lead puts me at about 3 ounces per wheel, is this anywhere near what people use. Baically i figured id keep adding and see how she climbs.

 

[Krazyhorse]

the kit im building is a tube kit
http://www.tcscrawlers.com/Package-...Tube-Frame-and-Eclipse-Bag-Parts-p-17645.html
Looks pretty nice. We will see how i do.

 

[Lobonyc]

I am making my axial scorpion into a tuber.
It requires changing the external shock springs to internal.
It seems to me that the shocks with internal springs would work completely opposite of external spring shocks.???

The internal shock springs work EXACTLY like the external ones.

The springs are narrower and shorter; hidden inside the shock with the oil.

I have to disagree with Jus(no offense) but having internal springs is not called a droop setup. Its just that, internal springs.

The placement of those springs inside the shock can either make it work in the traditional way "sprung setup" or in the opposite way "droop setup".

Here is a link to the JUNFAC site. It will give you a visual understanding, advantages and disadvantages of both the sprung and droop setups.

Good luck!"thumbsup"

 

[Krazyhorse]

OK thanks im going to check out that site and then tear mine apart and see what i come up with.

thanks

 

[Krazyhorse]

Good info but i don't see a link

Scott

 

[Lobonyc]

Good info but i don't see a link

Scott

sorry about that Scott.

Here is a link to a droop setup:

http://www.junfac.com/shop/images/suspension/shock/transition80_droop.swf

Here is a link to a sprung setup:
http://www.junfac.com/shop/images/suspension/shock/transition80_sprung.swf

Hope it gives you a better understanding...again sorry about forgetting the links.

 

[Krazyhorse]

thanks i will check them out.
I spent the weekend changing back and forth between internal and external configuration.

 

[Krazyhorse]

The good thing about me messing with these shocks was I became pretty good at replacing oil.