JeremyH
I wanna be Dave
File for unemployment."thumbsup"
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fed gov shutdown
- Thread starter vonclod
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JeremyH
I wanna be Dave
BTW, here is a list of the things that might close down:
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2011/04/politics/interactive.govt.shutdown.list/index.html?hpt=T2
So, for those of you who havent filed your taxes, if you are expecting a refund, file electronically if you want your check back...."thumbsup"
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2011/04/politics/interactive.govt.shutdown.list/index.html?hpt=T2
So, for those of you who havent filed your taxes, if you are expecting a refund, file electronically if you want your check back...."thumbsup"
I guess we're getting info on that in our furlough packets they're handing out on Monday. Not sure I can bring myself to that, though.
Run2jeepn, are you at least getting paid once it's sorted out? All the military and "exempt" people where I work are working for free, but at least they're gauranteed to get paid retro when the dust settles.
Miltary, if you are on leave, get off of leave, NOW!!! Durning the shutdown, if you are on leave YOU WILL NOT BE PAID FOR THAT TIME... period.
With that said...
Both parties are pushing the BS agendas with our paychecks... Sure, military will get back pay, but how about those that are being furloughed?
To save BILLIONS, they need to stop allowing riders on bills. A bridge might cost $50 million to build, but the bill that funds it will be $150 million with all of the riders that get placed on the bill, riders that have nothing to do with the bill they are on... This is the same BS that stopped the military funding bill, it would have funded the military for the rest of the fiscal year, but they went and put all kinds of BS riders on the damn thing to push their agenda...
Just remember, they are still getting paychecks during this time...
With that said...
Both parties are pushing the BS agendas with our paychecks... Sure, military will get back pay, but how about those that are being furloughed?
To save BILLIONS, they need to stop allowing riders on bills. A bridge might cost $50 million to build, but the bill that funds it will be $150 million with all of the riders that get placed on the bill, riders that have nothing to do with the bill they are on... This is the same BS that stopped the military funding bill, it would have funded the military for the rest of the fiscal year, but they went and put all kinds of BS riders on the damn thing to push their agenda...
Just remember, they are still getting paychecks during this time...
ColquittCustom405
I wanna be Dave
(points at you) He's lying guys. LIAR,LIAR pants on fire. You get paid for leave no matter what. Even during the CRA.
binaryterror
I wanna be Dave
Involuntary means against your will or you have no other choice.
You have a free will to leave the job and find other employment, therefore it is not slavery or involuntary. Obviously you want to blow it out of proportion to see your side, however no job is involuntary.
Team Tactical Bacon
Quarry Creeper
Not by my understanding. Once you have signed that contract and joined, you are in. Why should anyone ever have to take into consideration that they may not get paid, and have to work??? There is no choice then. Just jail time.
yeah, goes from an awol to a desertion after 30 days, you wouldn't be saying you're not a slave (to binary) if you left and got thrown in the clink for 18 months or so. its either that or find a reason to get discharged, which will most likely be dishonorable, which makes anything other than mcdonalds not an option. even with pay, its a prime example of indentured servitude in the modern world.
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OK, so why are we recalling ALL of our personnel? This is the word we have been given by Millington. And, no, if you are in a leave status during the shutdown you are considered furloughed, you do not get paid. Its your money, not mine, so do what you feel.
If nothing else, if you are active duty, and on leave, contact your parent command and get instruction from them as to what you should do...
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So you just want to move the same fight to 2012 and meanwhile. So we can sit here this time next year in even worse fiscal shape and the same tired arguments?
Quit eating the partisan crap and look at what we are facing. Sitting here playing stupid blame games instead of fixing the issues is not going to help.
Maybe some people have to miss some pay checks and will have to be caught up, that's life. I am in business for myself and actually have to plan ahead in this regards. No one guarantees my paycheck.
This is not about emotion, it's about sustainability. So give in, get a pay check today, then in the future when the US completely collapses because we kept putting these issues off, you can be thankful we made sure no one missed a pay check.
I support our military, many people close to me are active duty and retired, however, this is part of the deal.
I have worked for employers before that had to postpone our paychecks because the money simply wasn't there. Others were behind paying them. But they did their best to make it right.
Life isn't fair, it's full of tough breaks and hard choices. No amount of emotional discourse will get you past that.
For all the people so worried about military pay, why don't you volunteer some of you discretionary funds to our friends and family in the military to help them through. Oh yeah, that's another person's problem in and not yours.
Non-essential begs the question of why we have them in the first place?
Exactly, the federal government exists to serve the taxpayers not create jobs.
That's my thought as well.
The National Parks bring in over 32 Million from Sales a Day. Why would we shut those down and lose that money coming in from that.
I'll assume you have no idea how ignorant that is
No, that was not the intent. I think their classification of non-essential is very broad, it is just the terminology they use struck me as needing some better understanding.
I only know from my experience with someone that worked for the government on the social services side of the fence and she was always talking about some major excesses that didn't always make sense.
I think someone touched on it already, it really isn't the worker that is the problem, I think it is a bureaucratic issue in the way the system has been left to run awry for so long. Not to say that all the stuff that has been put in place is bad or not meant for good.
I just look at my own personal spending habits and think if I don't have the money for it I can't afford it and don't get it. Sure I can get some things on credit but only to a certain point and then have to trim my spending and get things back on track.
I know the whole system is massive and when I think about it I really can't comprehend how you can even keep track of all of it, but something has to be done at this point. I have no idea what that is though...
Ahh, I see, and very much agree.
vonclod
Rock Crawler
isnt unemployment a fed deal and would be closed? or is it a state run?
dezfan
I wanna be Dave
WRONG!
If they were to give in to the Dems over pennies, how can we expect them to stand tough against the Dems when the heavy work starts for next years budget?
Like Barry said when he was elected, elections have consequences. He lost this time.
The Republicans offered a CR to fund the Military throughout the rest of the fiscal year(September). Barry refuses to sign it. It's the Democratic party refusing to pay our military personal.
Like I said, this mess is owned lock, stock, and barrel by Barry and the Dems.:evil:
JeremyH
I wanna be Dave
You'd better believe that all check issuing facilities will continue to issue checks....whether that is manually or electronically.....
