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fire dept in tenn lets house burn down cuz ownwer forgot to pay $75 annual fee

Oh please. All they gotta do is cut the power, water, and sewer, hitch up and pull out. :ror:
Sure! Everyone who owns a mobile home drives one of these for a DD, right?
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If enough people demand their county provide services, then they will elect county representatives to make sure the county will. If enough people want those services, they will move away from the county to a county which provides them.

There is no free lunch.
 
If enough people demand their county provide services, then they will elect county representatives to make sure the county will
Haha! Because we all know that the politicians in this country listen to their constituents and do what is in their best interests....:roll:
 
Haha! Because we all know that the politicians in this country listen to their constituents and do what is in their best interests....:roll:

Who's fault is that? We get what we deserve. In 2008, do you know how many incumbents in the US House and Senate delegation from Texas were voted out of office after the passage of TARP?

One. And he was a Democrat who voted against TARP. :lmao:
 
Who's fault is that? We get what we deserve. In 2008, do you know how many incumbents in the US House and Senate delegation from Texas were voted out of office after the passage of TARP?

One. And he was a Democrat who voted against TARP. :lmao:
I thought you were the token Cowtown Liberal? When did you change?
 
I thought you were the token Cowtown Liberal? When did you change?

When I realized that 2% inflation is not a price stability mandate. When I realized that my buying power in 40 years, not due to anything other than the erosion of the value of our dollar, will be severely diminished.

Ultimately, when I figured out that central economic planning is not designed to raise all boats, just the connected few.

Anyhow, I've always been a social libertarian, fiscal conservative. Unfortunately, I had a difference of opinion with most on CT on our foreign intanglements which put me on the other side of the conversation.

Plus, it was more fun instigating. :flipoff:

Later,
Jon D.
 
If enough people demand their county provide services, then they will elect county representatives to make sure the county will.

Just demanding things won't make them happen. They can petition all they want, but if its not economically feasible it won't happen.

Sure! Everyone who owns a mobile home drives one of these for a DD, right?

If they would part with some of the "classic" and "collectable" cars in their yard, they'd surely have enough to buy one. ;-)

Before anyone gets offended, yes, I've lived in mobile home. :flipoff:
 
By the way, Vicky Bell, the homeowner in this most recent fire told the news that she knew about the fee, but didn't think it would ever happen to her. That's why she didn't pay. Not that they couldn't afford it. Not that they didn't know. Just that they didn't think they needed to because it wouldn't happen to them.
 
By the way, Vicky Bell, the homeowner in this most recent fire told the news that she knew about the fee, but didn't think it would ever happen to her. That's why she didn't pay. Not that they couldn't afford it. Not that they didn't know. Just that they didn't think they needed to because it wouldn't happen to them.
Good. She was wrong. So were the contract employees...'er, "firefighters". They are out $75, she is out every single one of her worldly possessions....win, win, right? :roll:
 
Sooo......why is that? Most counties in this country it IS "pay as you go".......why can this county not grasp that concept? Two separate instances, both with bad outcomes. The county needs to change their policy so that they quit leaving their citizens hung out to dry.

My folks live in the country.....at least 10 miles from the closest city. Their neighbor's house was recently struck by lightning and caught fire....the FD was there within 5 minutes. Why? Because the county taxes paid for a station to be built near their house for the benefit of those living in that area.

If you dont pay your water bill do you still get water? If you dont pay your electric bill does it stay on? Its a service they provide at a nominal fee. If it was a service provided by their Tax dollar then it be different but if everyone stopped paying their town taxes how long would that service be available?


Seriously? I know that the newest charred pile of rubble used to be on wheels, but to tell someone to move because their local politicians are terrible? :roll:

Im sorry but where theres a will theres a way. You do what you Need to do to survive in life. Wether it be getting a better job, changing schools or moving to another town you find a way to better things. If your politicians suck then find a way to change them or leave.


I agree, the homeowners should have paid. However, I can see both sides since I have been in a similar situation...one where I was unaware that the city required a form to be filled out for burglar alarm response.

Theres the difference, you Didnt know about the form .......... you think they Didnt know they had to pay? Would you still see the same way if you knowingly chose not to fill the form out and the cops didnt show up?



Then people should move away from that county or ante up the necessary taxes (sales, property, etc.) to pay for services.

The common misconception in this country is that government provides services automatically. The truth is someone has to pay for those services, and paying for those services have taken our Federal debt to over $15T, or over 100% GDP...

Thats the problem, this goverment provides to much and funny thing is people in this thread even agree with that. People get upset when they see others getting hand outs, abusing the system but when the tables turn they get upset because they cant get a freebie every now and then.
 
If you dont pay your water bill do you still get water? If you dont pay your electric bill does it stay on? Its a service they provide at a nominal fee. If it was a service provided by their Tax dollar then it be different but if everyone stopped paying their town taxes how long would that service be available?
In certain regions of the country, during certain times of the year, those utilities are considered necessary and cannot be disconnected.

Thats the problem, this goverment provides to much and funny thing is people in this thread even agree with that. People get upset when they see others getting hand outs, abusing the system but when the tables turn they get upset because they cant get a freebie every now and then.
I get upset when I see people getting things that they DONT need. I dont get upset at people who cant help themselves getting the things they need to stay alive (the elderly, children, the disabled and people who's houses are burning to the damn ground).
 
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Good. She was wrong. So were the contract employees...'er, "firefighters". They are out $75, she is out every single one of her worldly possessions....win, win, right? :roll:
I don't like paying for things that I don't think I need or that I don't see the benefit from either. But you know what, I do what I have to and pay it because that's what a contributing member of society and a responsible citizen does.

How about you guys pay the 911 surcharge on my phone for me, cuz I don't want to pay that anymore. I don't think I'll need it.

If you refuse to pay the gas bill what happens, if you refuse to pay the phone bill what happens, if you refuse to pay the IRS what happens, if you refuse to pay your speeding tickets what happens. Consequences, that's what.
 
In certain regions of the country, during certain times of the year, those utilities are considered necessary and cannot be disconnected.

Its like there here. Winter months (if) you have children or elderly in the house they cant disconnect you. BUT once that grace periods over your ass is shut off.

I get upset when I see people getting things that they DONT need. I dont get upset at people who cant help themselves getting the things they need to stay alive (the elderly, children, the disabled and people who's houses are burning to the damn ground).

I do too, no one deserves to lose their house. But I get tired of hearing people whine about how the system is doing them wrong or why cant they get a break. Yes if you're trying to better things and life keeps throwing poop on ya thats different then choosing not to do something and wanting compassion when your house burns down.


funny thing is people in this thread even agree with that

btw I wasnt trying to single you out, hope it wasnt taken that way.
 
Let me ask you guys this....recently the state of Texas had some pretty sizable fires (quite a number near where I live)....as in, half a city burned to the ground in one of those fires (next time I drive through there, I'll snap a few pics). A good majority of Texas firefighters were dispatched to those areas. We also had out of state firefighters come in to help out. Do you think the rest of the states should have just stood by and watched the entire state burn to the ground because we didnt pay for those firefighters?

btw I wasnt trying to single you out, hope it wasnt taken that way.
Dont worry, I dont get offended by what is said to me on the internet."thumbsup"
 
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Let me ask you guys this....recently the state of Texas had some pretty sizable fires (quite a number near where I live)....as in, half a city burned to the ground in one of those fires (next time I drive through there, I'll snap a few pics). A good majority of Texas firefighters were dispatched to those areas. We also had out of state firefighters come in to help out. Do you think the rest of the states should have just stood by and watched the entire state burn to the ground because we didnt pay for those firefighters?


Dont worry, I dont get offended by what is said to me on the internet."thumbsup"

Jeremy those fire fighters are federally funded to fight those kind of fires. Their whole reason for being is to fight large scale wild land fires. So you are comparing apples to oranges.
 
Jeremy those fire fighters are federally funded to fight those kind of fires. Their whole reason for being is to fight large scale wild land fires. So you are comparing apples to oranges.
These were local firefighters that were sent....at least the ones from this area....not a federal squad.

New Braunfels firefighters sent to help fight Bastrop wildfire | kvue.com Austin

I realize that there were probably some federally funded fighters sent, but the county of Bastrop was not told to piss off by every other county surrounding them....

BTW, the feds were only allowed in after Obummer got over his anger toward our governor and decided to call this a "disaster"...
 
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