HUGE insight on fords new diesel

[Gimp]

Except for the Raptor's frame

If you read the entire article, watched the video, and knew a little bit about the laws of physics, you'd understand why it bent.

Like the one owner said, "You do not buy a GT500 and expect it to drive like a race car, why would you buy a Raptor and expect it to handle and take the abuse of a trophy truck?"

Just my $.02



Back to the new 6.4..... The engineering that went into this engine is simply stunning and the end product is even better. The same thing can be said about the WHOLE NEW engine line in every Ford vehicle "thumbsup"

 

[microgoat]

If you read the entire article, watched the video, and knew a little bit about the laws of physics, you'd understand why it bent.

I know exactly why it bent, people believed the marketing.

http://www.ford.com/f150raptor/?intcmp=fv-fv-a1b08c03d000761e07f11g01h07j11k09m5n0p20110322

Actually looks like the frame is bent on that page :ror:

But back to the new diesel, there's some really interesting stuff there, like the backwards cylinder-head layout, two cooling systems and the weird double turbo. I sure wouldn't buy one from the first year of production, but I admire their audacity.

 

[max power]

Still waiting for a diesel Ranger:|

 

[microgoat]

You'll have to wait for 1985 to roll around again (I think that was a BMW engine). And they're killing the Ranger at the end of 2011 with no replacement. Sales of white XL models have hit a record high, along with the Crown Vic. Fleets are stocking up.

 

[BurnLatex]

I was at a car show last summer and the local Ford dealer was there with a new diesel. They had it parked running with the hood open. They guys just stood at the front of the truck having conversations with folks as they walked by. It was so quiet. Like Jetta quiet. Nothing like a first or second gen Cummins or the 7.3 Powerstrokes. I actually missed the racket. The exhaust really stunk even though it was cleaner. I'll breathe fumes from a straight pipe all day at work and love the smell. The new stuff just reeks.

A word on small diesels...

If you leave the states, you will find an astonishing number of small diesel vehicles. More than petrol. I was in Costa rica a couple years ago and that's all I seen were 1/4 ton diesels. Nissans and Toyotas everywhere.

The car companies here make too much cash off the bigger diesels. It's what kept Ford from bankruptcy here. Samll diesels would cut into profits too much even though the small stuff would sell like wildfire. There just isn't as large of profit margin on the smaller diesels.

 

[CM_113]

i still dont understand why FORD does not use the CUMMINs motor. ford still has ownership of the cummins company. i would have had the 5.9s and the 3 cylinders in the truck line YEARS ago

 

[BurnLatex]

I heard Ford sold off Cummins a few years ago after they came up with this new design.

 

[TexasSP]

i still dont understand why FORD does not use the CUMMINs motor. ford still has ownership of the cummins company. i would have had the 5.9s and the 3 cylinders in the truck line YEARS ago

Ford only ever owned a small share of Cummins and not the entire company. They have since sold said stock several years ago. I do not recall the exact dates and details though.

 

[microgoat]

A word on small diesels...

If you leave the states, you will find an astonishing number of small diesel vehicles. More than petrol. I was in Costa rica a couple years ago and that's all I seen were 1/4 ton diesels. Nissans and Toyotas everywhere.

The car companies here make too much cash off the bigger diesels. It's what kept Ford from bankruptcy here. Samll diesels would cut into profits too much even though the small stuff would sell like wildfire. There just isn't as large of profit margin on the smaller diesels.

You don't even have to go that far. Ford sells the Ranger in Mexico with a small diesel, and the rest of the world's Ranger (completely different truck) has always had a diesel in the lineup.

The USA is the only market for fullsize trucks; the rest of the world gets by with small pickups, and frankly 95% of the USA could, too.

The new CAFE rules have an exemption for "work trucks". I bet we're gonna see a lot of ladder racks on soccer-mom pickups real soon.

 

[dieselfuel]

**** that engine and **** ford...

i heard about this thing almost a year ago, i'm just glad i won't have to work on them.
the diesel industry is dieing, emissions controls have no place in the diesel world.

 

[foproy]

looking at the rest of the world to say that the diesel engine is a dinosaur is kinda crazy. ford mercedes, volkwagen and several other companies are putting a ton of money into clean diesel tech and man of these vehicles are getting mileage to destroy the nearest hybrid. deisle will die probably when we perfect hydrogen.

 

[JasonInAugusta]

Just got done reading and skimming through this article. And i'm not a expert on engines so i won't put my 2 cents in...other than i'm glad international is no longer making ford's diesels. All in-house now :mrgreen:

Heres the article, its a long read, it talks about everything.

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2009/0...-v-8-scorpion-power-stroke-diesel-engine.html

It's also from 2009. :lmao:

Not much of a huge insight unless you've been under a rock for the past two years.

 

[losikid]

It's also from 2009. :lmao:

Not much of a huge insight unless you've been under a rock for the past two years.

No i've been standing on the rocks.

And even though its old it still says alot of the new features in the new diesel they are using this year (i think this is the first year)...most people don't research in-depth into engines so it makes a nice read with the major changes in one place

 

[RANOVRU]

The June issue of Diesel Power theres a '11 F250 with the 6.7 at a dyno day in one article. With just exhaust, cold air, and a hand held tuner it put down 449hp 900+lbs to the tires.