Intelligent Design VS Evolution

[ohh EPiC FAiL]

if you have netflix, watch the movie called flock of dodos.

if intelligent design is true, then why do rabbits eat their food, have it go past their stomach and small intestine into the cecum, then secrete it through their anus and eat it again and then it goes to the stomach? the top couple of paragraphs briefly explain that they do this.
http://www.bio.miami.edu/hare/poop.html

i revised this post as my original one was kind of 'ranty' so i apologize if anyone read it.

 

[vonclod]

if you have netflix, watch the movie called flock of dodos.

if intelligent design is true, then why do rabbits eat their food, have it go past their stomach and small intestine into the cecum, then secrete it through their anus and eat it again and then it goes to the stomach? the top couple of paragraphs briefly explain that they do this.
Rabbits: The Mystery of Poop

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interesting article..basically anything and everything i ever wondered about rabbit shit..its right there"thumbsup":ror:
jk man i couldnt resist..it is pretty weird stuff. im sure there are other simular examples

 

[ohh EPiC FAiL]

yeah that's just one example of a "design failure" if intelligent design was real. another is the recurrent laryngeal nerve.

i just found this quote from Michael Shermer that i really like.

Finally, from what we now know about the cosmos, to think that all this was created for just one species among the tens of millions of species who live on one planet circling one of a couple of hundred billion stars that are located in one galaxy among hundreds of billions of galaxies, all of which are in one universe among perhaps an infinite number of universes all nestled within a grand cosmic multiverse, is provincially insular and anthropocentrically blinkered. Which is more likely? That the universe was designed just for us, or that we see the universe as having been designed just for us?

 

[binaryterror]

I just can not beleave that this all just happened by chance.

Chance is possible.

"And the there was" is not a plausible way to begin something.

If we are created/designed in a God's image, why do we not just exist? Pregnancy seems void if we are to believe that famous quote.

 

[CantonAreaCrawler]

Would extraterrestrial creationism be a whole other thread?

"thumbsup" That did not take long. I will start by saying I am a christian. Could we be confussing God for extraterrestrial life? I must say that this is my thought. In the bible there are lots of stories to back this up. Charriots with fire and smoke soulds like a rocket to me. Does this mean that God does not exist...No. But maybe just maybe we are confused a little on things. Now i will say that there are also christian scincetists. I beleave that we did not come from apes but we do share alot of the same traits. I CAN NOT BELEAVE that we came from some blob living in the ocean to be the humans we are today.
The book Intelligent Design VS Evollition is a great book and i suggest it to anyone who likes to read. It will make you think and thats for sure.

 

[CantonAreaCrawler]

And I must warn you I have the Flu so if I do not respond right away I might be resting away from the computer.

 

[ctrwannabe]

"thumbsup" That did not take long. I will start by saying I am a christian. Could we be confussing God for extraterrestrial life? I must say that this is my thought. In the bible there are lots of stories to back this up. Charriots with fire and smoke soulds like a rocket to me. Does this mean that God does not exist...No. But maybe just maybe we are confused a little on things. Now i will say that there are also christian scincetists. I beleave that we did not come from apes but we do share alot of the same traits. I CAN NOT BELEAVE that we came from some blob living in the ocean to be the humans we are today.
The book Intelligent Design VS Evollition is a great book and i suggest it to anyone who likes to read. It will make you think and thats for sure.

I may check the book out but I think it's possible over the billions of years that we could have evolved from some steaming green muck in a swamp with out any intervention. It's also possible we made it to some stage of say a monkey and an ET changed a few things arround in our DNA. I can also run with the evolution thing and at some point ET's showed up and coexisted with us for a while or could still be amongst us. Not enough info has become avalable yet to rule that stuff out, to many odd things went on in our past.

 

[Cheatin]

God created evolution.

 

[ctrwannabe]

God created evolution.

I’m glad someone has all the answers …

 

[binaryterror]

I CAN NOT BELEAVE that we came from some blob living in the ocean to be the humans we are today.

A lot of people feel like that...

Could we be confussing God for extraterrestrial life? I must say that this is my thought.

Why do you not seek or worship the creator of God or this alien race then?

God created evolution.

Man created God.

 

[vonclod]

yeah that's just one example of a "design failure" if intelligent design was real. another is the recurrent laryngeal nerve.

i just found this quote from Michael Shermer that i really like.

how about wisdom teeth, the appendix..or tonsils..actually i dont think tonsils need to be removed much these days but there are flaws in our "design"

 

[ohh EPiC FAiL]

yeah everyone knows about those, i was giving some more bizarre examples.

and before anyone even says it, irreducible complexity does NOT give any more credibility to intelligent design. it just adds another layer of BS to sort through and infinite regress. to create us the designer must be just as complex as us, so who designed the designer? who designed the designer's designer? this may sound crazy to those that don't understand evolution, but it's just as logical to think about it this way as to think that we were intelligently designed "thumbsup"

 

[vonclod]

ya i think who designed the designer is a huge one

 

[Duuuuuuuude]

ya i think who designed the designer is a huge one

They will tell you that God willed himself into being out of nothing.

Pretty much any argument for ID is an argument against science. ID is faithed based theory and nothing more.

 

[ohh EPiC FAiL]

if god can be self-caused, so can the universe.

straight from a Greydon Square song "thumbsup"

 

[ctrwannabe]

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[Armistice]

I didn't read any of the posts really

I believe in Evolution in the aspect of Natural Selection. Don't have what it takes, you die/ get killed. If you have what it takes, then you survive and pass those genes on to future generations

 

[JeremyH]

Again, I think you guys are taking this stuff way too literally and as an end all, be all.

I dont know if this is correct, but here is what Wikipedia describes as Intelligent Design (as defined by the Discovery Institute):
"certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection"

Does that description allow for flaws? Yep. Does it cover everything? Nope. Do people take that description too literally? Most definitely.

 

[ohh EPiC FAiL]

the discovery institute is the institution putting up the $$$ to pay lawyers to get ID taught in schools. watch flock of dodos, he goes a little more in depth with it. it's really a good documentary not because he objects to ID, but because he interviews proponents of ID as well as speaks of his knowledge on evolution as well as harvard educated scientists. and he does it all super respectfully, not trashing the people pushing for ID.

 

[Armistice]

The only think I can't quite wrap my mind around is how organisms went from multiplying to having reproductive organs. Actually, it could come up, but the cells still multiplied, so more and more cells would have reproductive organs, but (say it was male first) even if the female version came out, then how could they have evolved to be used with each other. I see it as being completely separate. Seems very odd that both mutations end up becoming part of the same process

Does what I wrote make sense? I mean, how many times did the organs fail to work before it actually worked