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Lance Armstrong: Beats ball cancer, now gives up after witch hunt.

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Statement from his website.


Lance Armstong's Statement of August 23, 2012


AUSTIN, Texas - August 23rd, 2012 - There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in winning my seven Tours since 1999. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a two-year federal criminal investigation followed by Travis Tygart's unconstitutional witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for our foundation and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense.

I had hoped that a federal court would stop USADA’s charade. Although the court was sympathetic to my concerns and recognized the many improprieties and deficiencies in USADA’s motives, its conduct, and its process, the court ultimately decided that it could not intervene.

If I thought for one moment that by participating in USADA’s process, I could confront these allegations in a fair setting and – once and for all – put these charges to rest, I would jump at the chance. But I refuse to participate in a process that is so one-sided and unfair. Regardless of what Travis Tygart says, there is zero physical evidence to support his outlandish and heinous claims. The only physical evidence here is the hundreds of controls I have passed with flying colors. I made myself available around the clock and around the world. In-competition. Out of competition. Blood. Urine. Whatever they asked for I provided. What is the point of all this testing if, in the end, USADA will not stand by it?

From the beginning, however, this investigation has not been about learning the truth or cleaning up cycling, but about punishing me at all costs. I am a retired cyclist, yet USADA has lodged charges over 17 years old despite its own 8-year limitation. As respected organizations such as UCI and USA Cycling have made clear, USADA lacks jurisdiction even to bring these charges. The international bodies governing cycling have ordered USADA to stop, have given notice that no one should participate in USADA’s improper proceedings, and have made it clear the pronouncements by USADA that it has banned people for life or stripped them of their accomplishments are made without authority. And as many others, including USADA’s own arbitrators, have found, there is nothing even remotely fair about its process. USADA has broken the law, turned its back on its own rules, and stiff-armed those who have tried to persuade USADA to honor its obligations. At every turn, USADA has played the role of a bully, threatening everyone in its way and challenging the good faith of anyone who questions its motives or its methods, all at U.S. taxpayers’ expense. For the last two months, USADA has endlessly repeated the mantra that there should be a single set of rules, applicable to all, but they have arrogantly refused to practice what they preach. On top of all that, USADA has allegedly made deals with other riders that circumvent their own rules as long as they said I cheated. Many of those riders continue to race today.

The bottom line is I played by the rules that were put in place by the UCI, WADA and USADA when I raced. The idea that athletes can be convicted today without positive A and B samples, under the same rules and procedures that apply to athletes with positive tests, perverts the system and creates a process where any begrudged ex-teammate can open a USADA case out of spite or for personal gain or a cheating cyclist can cut a sweetheart deal for themselves. It’s an unfair approach, applied selectively, in opposition to all the rules. It’s just not right.

USADA cannot assert control of a professional international sport and attempt to strip my seven Tour de France titles. I know who won those seven Tours, my teammates know who won those seven Tours, and everyone I competed against knows who won those seven Tours. We all raced together. For three weeks over the same roads, the same mountains, and against all the weather and elements that we had to confront. There were no shortcuts, there was no special treatment. The same courses, the same rules. The toughest event in the world where the strongest man wins. Nobody can ever change that. Especially not Travis Tygart.

Today I turn the page. I will no longer address this issue, regardless of the circumstances. I will commit myself to the work I began before ever winning a single Tour de France title: serving people and families affected by cancer, especially those in underserved communities. This October, my Foundation will celebrate 15 years of service to cancer survivors and the milestone of raising nearly $500 million. We have a lot of work to do and I'm looking forward to an end to this pointless distraction. I have a responsibility to all those who have stepped forward to devote their time and energy to the cancer cause. I will not stop fighting for that mission. Going forward, I am going to devote myself to raising my five beautiful (and energetic) kids, fighting cancer, and attempting to be the fittest 40-year old on the planet.
 
I dig his accomplishments , and hope the best for him! Can't believe even , in cycling there's a ton of BS !
 
Jeez, it's not like he drive over his own foot to gain an advantage or ran a body that was under the legal size...

:roll:

It's really sad how we as a nation treat real hero's (like Lance) and worship pieces of shit criminal basketball/football players and rappers that beat women.

GBA...?
 
Long time coming I say. Anyone who thinks Lance won seven tour titles in a row clean are kidding themselves. There have been multiple former teammates that have been caught or admitted doping, doctors, soigneurs, and other staff that have been caught or admitted to supplying doping products, and multiple competitors who have been caught or admitted doping. It's been shown time and again that it's possible to get around the system, so his claims of having all negative tests (which isn't true if you look at the Tour of Switzerland) doesn't hold much weight.

By pulling out now rather than being forced into an actual admission or conviction, Lance saves himself from multiple million dollar lawsuits from those sponsors who thought he was clean. Also saves himself from the wrath of all his sheep who can now bleat "You big meanies USADA".

Having said that, I don't think he should be stripped of his tour titles. It's meaningless at this point and given the corruption in the entire system, it's rather pointless. How many riders deep would you have to go before you find a clean one? He was still the hardest working cyclist at the time, just doing what everyone else was doing for that extra performance edge. What I do hope is that by having a high profile athlete like Lance Armstrong more or less convicted of doping, it really starts to clean things up in the cycling world. I'm a huge cycling fan, always will be, but this kind of shit really gives it a black eye.
 
What I do hope is that by having a high profile athlete like Lance Armstrong more or less convicted of doping, it really starts to clean things up in the cycling world. I'm a huge cycling fan, always will be, but this kind of shit really gives it a black eye.
Why is it that none of his tests came back positive? Are they just worthless tests?

I do not believe he is clean....there are likely few professional athletes that are....I just cant imagine that he wouldnt have failed at least one out of the 600 blood tests he's been given over the years if these tests worth worth two craps.

Another note.....I dont think an organization should rely on ONLY claims from fellow competitors or others involved to pass down judgement on an athlete. If they want proof, then they (USADA) needs to have hard evidence. The US court system does not solely rely on testimony from witnesses....even they know witnesses get facts wrong or lie for whatever reason.
 
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just a bunch of other riders that got beat by a guy who should never have won in there minds, they needed closure that he cheated and his feat was not even possible by healthy men including themselves :lmao: ........bob

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Well at least he will always have a pen named after him, the Uniball, they can never take that!
 
Why is it that none of his tests came back positive? Are they just worthless tests?

I do not believe he is clean....there are likely few professional athletes that are....I just cant imagine that he wouldnt have failed at least one out of the 600 blood tests he's been given over the years if these tests worth worth two craps.

Another note.....I dont think an organization should rely on ONLY claims from fellow competitors or others involved to pass down judgement on an athlete. If they want proof, then they (USADA) needs to have hard evidence. The US court system does not solely rely on testimony from witnesses....even they know witnesses get facts wrong or lie for whatever reason.

Ah, but he wasn't always clean. Tour of Switzerland back in about 2004 he had high hematocrit levels that more or less got swept under the rug with a healthy donation from Lance to the UCI for improvements in anti-doping procedures. As well, re-testing of archived blood sampled from the 99 or 2000 tour found EPO in his blood samples. Since it didn't follow due process and exceeded time limits, it was inadmissable, but EPO doesn't just pop up in your blood.

A number of riders have come forward and admitted doping without ever having been caught in their career. Jonathan Vaughters and Frankie Andreu come to mind. Both former teammates of Lance at the time. No positives in or out of competition. You can get around the system, you just need the money, power and smarts to do it.

I'm not sure USADA ever thought they would get a conviction on witness testimony alone. I think they were hoping to back Lance into a corner and get him to come forward and confess. Definitely, some of the witnesses may have a vendetta against Lance, but there were several that had nothing to gain.

Again, I respect him as an athlete. Doped or not I think he was a great cyclist who fell into the same trap most others did at that time. Can you imagine the pressure as a 20 something year old who's entire salary and earnings are based on results in a bike race? Of course there's going to be cheating. I don't blame him for that, I just don't like his cocksure attitude and how quickly he was willing to throw others under the bus and condemn them for doping.

just a bunch of other riders that got beat by a guy who should never have won in there minds, they needed closure that he cheated and his feat was not even possible by healthy men including themselves :lmao: ........bob

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I think it is quite possible to do the tour without doping. I believe that Lance could have won those seven tours if all the racers were clean. He is a gifted cyclist and his singular dedication to training for the tour was totally different from what anyone had done in the past. What is unbeleivable is that he could win the tour clean while these guys with jelly for blood fall behind. And in the later years he didn't just win the tour, he crushed the competition with his whole team just riding everyone else off their wheels.
 
Lance Armstrong is the most tested athlete in the world. His samples have been retested with newer and better testing methods, and still not one failed test. He is being railroaded by former teammates, and competitors that have all been offered reduced suspension if they implicate Lance. The USADA cannot produce anything more than hearsay evidence yet they are "convicting him of doping". I guess I can accuse you of something and that will make it true?

The one dirty test you claim was for low levels of cortasall all cyclists are allowed to use for saddle sores
 
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Ah, but he wasn't always clean. Tour of Switzerland back in about 2004 he had high hematocrit levels that more or less got swept under the rug with a healthy donation from Lance to the UCI for improvements in anti-doping procedures. As well, re-testing of archived blood sampled from the 99 or 2000 tour found EPO in his blood samples. Since it didn't follow due process and exceeded time limits, it was inadmissable, but EPO doesn't just pop up in your blood.
Yes, I have read about that tour. It sounds like USADA and WADA are just as culpable. So, they took a bribe to get rid of a positive drug test? And Lance is the criminal here? :roll:

I do find it funny that they are now pushing for all 7 major titles to be wiped even though their OWN rules state it only goes back 8 years....which means 2 titles.

The USADA needs to get down off it's high horse and quit trying to make an example out of one person....treat everyone equally or get rid of the USADA.
 
Yes, I have read about that tour. It sounds like USADA and WADA are just as culpable. So, they took a bribe to get rid of a positive drug test? And Lance is the criminal here? :roll:

I do find it funny that they are now pushing for all 7 major titles to be wiped even though their OWN rules state it only goes back 8 years....which means 2 titles.

The USADA needs to get down off it's high horse and quit trying to make an example out of one person....treat everyone equally or get rid of the USADA.

Even better is the fact that the USADA has zero authority to remove those titles. That authority lies with the Tour. They have zero ethics, but they are convicting lance F*&^ off.

Sorry that is directed at the USADA not any posts here
 
Lance Armstrong is the most tested athlete in the world. His samples have been retested with newer and better testing methods, and still not one failed test. He is being railroaded by former teammates, and competitors that have all been offered reduced suspension if they implicate Lance. The USADA cannot produce anything more than hearsay evidence yet they are "convicting him of doping". I guess I can accuse you of something and that will make it true?

The one dirty test you claim was for low levels of cortasall all cyclists are allowed to use for saddle sores

Except for the EPO tests? Ah yes, I remember now, it was cortisol, for which he was able to provide a TUE for after the fact :roll:

As for the witnesses, it's always been the same. Either you're on the Pharmstrong team and play along, or you've got a personal vendetta against him and your word isn't worth anything. Oh, and count on some intimidation and threats of lawsuits if you say anything bad about Lance.

Again, my thoughts are that Lance gave up to save his ass. He has the money, has the lawyers to fight this. Has never given up before when accused. However, now he can still claim he never had a positive test and was never convicted of doping. Get out while the getting's good. Will be interesting to see if the evidence still comes out in Bruyneel's arbitration case.

Yes, I have read about that tour. It sounds like USADA and WADA are just as culpable. So, they took a bribe to get rid of a positive drug test? And Lance is the criminal here? :roll:

I do find it funny that they are now pushing for all 7 major titles to be wiped even though their OWN rules state it only goes back 8 years....which means 2 titles.

The USADA needs to get down off it's high horse and quit trying to make an example out of one person....treat everyone equally or get rid of the USADA.

Yep. No doubt they're all in bed together. The UCI have turned a blind eye to this for years, even asserting that USADA had no authority in this case and demanding their evidence. The system is corrupt and broken. Hopefully not beyond repair.

Travis Tygart does seem to have a hard-on for convicting Lance in this case. I think it's because of all the connections Lance had within the peleton and with so many other dopers. He was probably sick of the charade as well.
 
Get out while the getting's good.
I agree....it was smart of him. Get out before:
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Some people are just exceptional and I always look at lance as that.

I feel bad for him giving up and its sad you can struggle/fight to live but yet you can't fight politics....
 
Some people are just exceptional and I always look at lance as that.

I feel bad for him giving up and its sad you can struggle/fight to live but yet you can't fight politics....

I totally agree that he is an exceptionally gifted athlete. It's hard to beat the system, and I'm talking what seems at times to be the ubiquitous practice of doping in the peleton.

The whole thing just sickens me. I was never a big fan of Lance, but am a big fan of how he brought cycling to the world as opposed to it remaining another Euro-centric sport. Could have been a two edged sword, more exposure but that means bigger sponsors and more pressue to perform. Can't say I would have done anything different in that situation.
 
Having said that, I don't think he should be stripped of his tour titles. It's meaningless at this point and given the corruption in the entire system, it's rather pointless. How many riders deep would you have to go before you find a clean one?

This is exactly how I feel about this situation. If Lance is stripped of his titles, will they then look at, and test the guys who finished second? Then the guys who finished third? Or will they just strip Lance, and give the title to the runner up like they did with Contador? Was Andy Schleck investigated to make sure he was worthy of the title? Not that I know of.

And will the riders who gain the title really want that asterisk next to their name in the record books? I doubt it...not all of us do well with asterisks ;-)
 
Was Andy Schleck investigated to make sure he was worthy of the title? Not that I know of.

If his siamese twin of a brother is any indication, Andy should probably just lay low with his injuries and keep that title.

I can see the headlines now:
"17th place awarded title for 1999 TDF"
:ror:

Sadly, that's not far from the truth. Velonews ran an article looking at the top 20 riders from something like the 2004 tour. About 15 of them had been convicted of doping, admitted to doping, or otherwise implicated in doping rings :roll:
 
Doped or not I think he was a great cyclist who fell into the same trap most others did at that time.

I think it is quite possible to do the tour without doping. I believe that Lance could have won those seven tours if all the racers were clean.

I think these two sentences say it all.
I find it VERY hard to believe, if he was doping, he was the only one that was doping.

I feel if you test them, at the time of the event, with two samples tested at independent labs, and both are negative, they win and it stands. Going back years and years ago on witch hunts like this is ridiculous..

This just opens Pandora's box even more.
First Asterics, Sorry C*H*U*D I know you love them, then stripping wins and titles (Paterno), Mark McGwire and the home run record. What's next. Testing Pee-Wee football for roids?

If you were tested and they couldn't prove it then, how can they prove it now? It's a good thing people accused of crimes like murder, rape, and worse are not conviced on the hear say of someone. They need evidence. By no means am I saying Armstrong is innocent, am not saying he is guilty either. Just saying if the evidence wasn't there to be found guilty, then you are not guilty. That is one of the simple liberties this country was founded.

I think this goes into another issue. Someone somewhere is not happy with the fact an individual dominated a sport for that amount of time. I liken it to the things I see for little league and young soccer league. All of the teams get trophies in 2012. No matter if they win or loose. They all do. I still remember the first time I played t-ball, at 10 years old. My first year we won the local league championship. 12-0.. "thumbsup" The next year, in little league, 1-11. :flipoff: I felt like crap and was VERY dissapointed. Did it teach me a lesson, ABSOLUTELY.. Did I play baseball again, no, I learned to go play football and enjoyed every minute of it now matter if I was winning or loosing.

It is the same for the sport of rc rock crawling. Do I expect to get a trophy when I go to a big comp with some of the best of the sport and finish almost dead last. NO. Did I learn a ton and drive me to do better next time. Absolutely. It also made me remember this is supposed to be fun. It isn't meant to put bread and butter on the table. It is a recreation. People treat sporting events like the world depends on the outcome. All in all, any professional sport is a recreation. If the sport ceased to exsist tomorrow, the world would keep going round and round. Who knows, we might even be a little better off.
I certainly wouldn't have to wear the paper bag over my head when the Lions go 0-18 again.
OK, rant over...
 
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