Mods are brown-nosing VP?

[skinnyj]

Why? Because American shops blatantly discriminate European customers by charging outrageous shipping prices.

Uhhh... No. It is because it costs a shit-ton to send something across an ocean. Unless you are large retailer getting a huge discount from UPS/FedEX/USPS, the overseas rates are nuts. Last time I quoted USPS to Europe, I was looking at $56, my price, for the cheapest shipping option. Most places mark up S&H to cover shipping & warehouse overhead (staff, supplies, ect). So, if you were getting an end charge of $30 for overseas shipping, I'd say that was pretty reasonable, imho...

 

[Scrap]

What?

Yes. you can buy VP, CI and most other brands real genuine products from chinese webstores.
Shipping is usually only a few dollars or free.

And why wouldn't a vendor sell bulk to china? They have all the necessary logistics to move the stuff easily and affordably to the consumer. A single vendor could never send his wares that efficiently.

And I know enough about running a small business that I hope I will never have to do it.

 

[mikemcE]

. Because American shops blatantly discriminate European customers by charging outrageous shipping prices. If I want to buy a servo extension cable, costing maybe 5 dollars, most big shops in USA charge around 30 dollars shipping to Europe. Nobody can live with that.
So, ironically, it's because of China that RC crawling can even be enjoyed in Europe.
Once I contacted Crawler Innovations about some products, and they advised me to get their stuff not from them, but through Hong Kong.

So, many thanks to China from Europe

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Funny I hear how outrageous customs and shipping are to Europe, I've always wondered how vendors can ship from Hong Kong for 5.00 and get it in 10 days.

CI knows how much shipping direct would cost you, they sell to dealers who absorb shipping



Hang up and Drive

 

[tjohanne]

Uhhh... No. It is because it costs a shit-ton to send something across an ocean. Unless you are large retailer getting a huge discount from UPS/FedEX/USPS, the overseas rates are nuts. Last time I quoted USPS to Europe, I was looking at $56, my price, for the cheapest shipping option. Most places mark up S&H to cover shipping & warehouse overhead (staff, supplies, ect). So, if you were getting an end charge of $30 for overseas shipping, I'd say that was pretty reasonable, imho...

It has nothing to do with the ocean or distance. I have paid around 6 dollars shipping for stuff from Canada and Australia, because they offer their version of economy rates. The crazy shipping prices are an American thing.. And we must buy our Vanquish products from Hong Kong because of it... The reason has to do with insurance and not distance.

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[WHITE-TRASH]

It has nothing to do with the ocean or distance. I have paid around 6 dollars shipping for stuff from Canada and Australia, because they offer their version of economy rates. The crazy shipping prices are an American thing.. And we must buy our Vanquish products from Hong Kong because of it...

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Most everything I buy from a small vendor yes CI, brood, holmes and the like are small vendors on the grand scale ship flat rate usps because they don't do enough volume to get a discount. I've looked into shipping international and it's crazy expensive. Now if I was tower or horizon who does millions in freight a year I could ship across the pond for cheap. It's a volume thing for sure.

 

[C*H*U*D]

The Chinese Vanquish ripoff threads were deleted because some RCC members were using this forum to conduct design reviews with each other, and then share the findings with the Chinese manufacturer.

If you think this is acceptable, then you're entitled to your opinion.

But you'd be wrong.

 

[WHITE-TRASH]

The Chinese Vanquish ripoff threads were deleted because some RCC members were using this forum to conduct design reviews with each other, and then share the findings with the Chinese manufacturer.

If you think this is acceptable, then you're entitled to your opinion.

But you'd be wrong.

Unlike VP that took years to finally make a wider wheel the chicom sweatshop spit out the requested wider version in a month to please their market. What a bunch of jerks.

 

[C*H*U*D]

Unlike VP that took years to finally make a wider wheel the chicom sweatshop spit out the requested wider version in a month to please their market. What a bunch of jerks.

That's fine. But they should do it with their own information, and not at the request of members on a forum that Vanquish is a supporting vendor on.

 

[WHITE-TRASH]

That's fine. But they should do it with their own information, and not at the request of members on a forum that Vanquish is a supporting vendor on.

How were they supposed to get the information that the market wanted wider wheels without an avenue to get the information in the first place? :lol:


I get the protect the vendors part of it and I can agree to it to a certain point but I'm more of an adapt & conquer or stay steadfast and die kinda guy. I'd be happy if everyone had an equal shot at the buyers and we let the chips fall.

I ended up on the traxxas forum yesterday, I'd never paid the place much attention and now I know why. Vendors names cannot even be mentioned if they are on "the list". It's crazy to me to take censorship to that level.

 

[C*H*U*D]

How were they supposed to get the information that the market wanted wider wheels without an avenue to get the information in the first place? :lol:

This is not their avenue for information. VP pays to be here, they don't. That's the point.

If they were so interested in making better wheels for the market, they would be a supporting vendor here and ask what everyone wanted. Instead they're just a copy shop.

 

[WHITE-TRASH]

This is not their avenue for information. VP pays to be here, they don't. That's the point.

If they were so interested in making better wheels for the market, they would be a supporting vendor here and ask what everyone wanted. Instead they're just a copy shop.

So they should split the difference and have a star while they copy others work and maybe pop out an original part once in a while like SSD eh? Good point, most people love their Stole Someone's Design way of doing things. :lmao:

 

[Robbob]

Here is some unrelated food for thought. It's because of China (Hong Kong) that we in Europe can buy original Vanquish products. I have bought plenty of American RC products (blown my budget countless times), including Vanquish, and it's all through certain Hong Kong based online shops. Why? Because American shops blatantly discriminate European customers by charging outrageous shipping prices. If I want to buy a servo extension cable, costing maybe 5 dollars, most big shops in USA charge around 30 dollars shipping to Europe. Nobody can live with that.
So, ironically, it's because of China that RC crawling can even be enjoyed in Europe.
Once I contacted Crawler Innovations about some products, and they advised me to get their stuff not from them, but through Hong Kong.

So, many thanks to China from Europe

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You apparently dont know how things work in this wide world of shipping and overseas. Hmmm why would it be less shipping from a country thats Closer to you? Do you think these American companies are charging less to oversea suppliers then local ones? Could the overseas companies be selling the American product at a lower profit margin just to get you to buy from them? Hook you into the site to buy something for 5$ that cost them .03 to make? Its a game dude - trust me they are making less off an american part then we make off the same part.

This is not their avenue for information. VP pays to be here, they don't. That's the point.

If they were so interested in making better wheels for the market, they would be a supporting vendor here and ask what everyone wanted. Instead they're just a copy shop.

And they proved that by copying items that Vp had to pay License Fees to make themselves.

No research done, no investments made not even a care.

Why? Because people will buy it and hoot and hollar about how great it is because its cheap then in another thread complain about how the American economy is down and theres no jobs anywhere and wah wah wah. So tired of this China is cheaper crap and everyone else is farking us crap ..... oops sorry had me going there for a moment. :roll:




IMO - Im all for saving money and being price conscious these days, hell I shop around for my own stuff too.

Answer this, who's there to help you when that cheap chinese sheit you so loved because it was half the cost doesn't fit? Doesnt work right? Breaks in half your first run? How easy is it to get a hold of someone to actually make right what their 'inexpensive' machine/material/labor did wrong?

Vp made lockers less expensive for people and they had a problem. Big difference was they had someone here on the forums listening watching and responding and tackled the problem right away.

Good luck getting one of your hero Chinese companies fixing any problem that quick.

Paying to be here and Customer Service like that is why they get the treatment they do. Until your Chinese any ones do that then I hope all their threads get handled the same way.

 

[C*H*U*D]

So they should split the difference and have a star while they copy others work and maybe pop out an original part once in a while like SSD eh? Good point, most people love their Stole Someone's Design way of doing things. :lmao:

I think we're going off on different tangents here. The OP asked why the China threads were deleted. I told him why and that I agreed with the decision.

If vendors are blatantly copying each other, then no I don't agree with that either.

 

[WHITE-TRASH]

I think we're going off on different tangents here. The OP asked why the China threads were deleted. I told him why and that I agreed with the decision.

If vendors are blatantly copying each other, then no I don't agree with that either.

We aren't off on one of my crazy tangents at all. You say the chicom companies should play ball like our current vendors do. I simply pointed out how one of them does business which oddly enough is another big vp copying company but they have a star so it's ok.

 

[XSRCdesign]

So they should split the difference and have a star while they copy others work and maybe pop out an original part once in a while like SSD eh? Good point, most people love their Stole Someone's Design way of doing things. :lmao:

You realize a lot of the stuff that RC4wd has was designed by the guy running SSD right? Hence the very close products.


Btw I'm pretty sure there are only a few mods here, maybe the OP wants to volunteer to help?

 

[WHITE-TRASH]

You realize a lot of the stuff that RC4wd has was designed by the guy running SSD right? Hence the very close products.

Yup and he has also copied VP and a few others as well. But it's ok, he has a blue star. 8)

 

[THX_138]

Why are all ......

But why not .....

Why is that .....

When are.......

And why wouldn't .....

You really have to .......

Please direct me to the forum you moderate, I'd love to see the right way you wonderfully do things.

No? No forum?
I'm shocked

One less forum to go through each morning.

whew... I was thinking good thing you'll no longer be tortured,.....
but yet you keep logging in here and keep posting

 

[calcagno45]

People forget that they click a box agreeing to the terms of using this forum when they signed up.

 

[skinnyj]

People forget that they click a box agreeing to the terms of using this forum when they signed up.

But... But... I thought that if I copied and pasted all that legal mumbo-jumbo my friend on FB told me about into a post, I was exempt from the TOS. :lmao:

 

[Scrap]

You apparently dont know how things work in this wide world of shipping and overseas.

The cost has more to do with how much stuff is going on a certain route then the actual distance.

Btw I'm pretty sure there are only a few mods here, maybe the OP wants to volunteer to help?

Judging from this thread there would be far fewer threads on this forum if I was a mod.

whew... I was thinking good thing you'll no longer be tortured,.....
but yet you keep logging in here and keep posting

Ain't been banned yet.

BTW I've got VP parts on my set of AR60 axles