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Need some networking guru advice..

HomerJ

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Ok, so the next couple of weeks are going to be rough for me, as I'm planning on quitting smoking on Tuesday. So, I'm stacking projects up to keep myself completely occupied for a LONG time to stay distracted pretty much..:shock:

So, one of my projects is to completely network the house, along with wiring the house for in-wall speakers. The latter will be a secondary part of networking the house that won't really require any extra work since I'm running lines anyway.

Here's the plan:

Hardline 2 bedrooms, my little 'office alcove' in my kitchen area, as well as the wall behind my entertainment center in the living room. I know I'm going to have to cut out a good portion of drywall, because I live on the bottom floor of a condo complex (I own from the drywall in). I'm ok with that, no biggie. I was going to do some painting of rooms, etc. anyway. Figured while I was at it, might as well knock this out while I'm doing it all.

The 2 bedrooms are going to have a 2 slot RJ45 wall plate. The "office" and the wall behind the entertainment center I want to put a 6 slot wall plate. That part I'm clear on, smash walls, run line, put in wall plate, wire it up right, done deal.

Here's what I would like some opinions on..

Do I go for a network switch and run everything through there, or should I try to make it work on my new(ish) Belkin router? I'm pretty certain the way to go is a switch, so if that's the consensus, what's a good recommendation?

I'm currently using a Motorolla surfboard cable modem, is there any need in upgrading to a better one just for normal internet activities (browsing, movies, gaming occasionally, uploading tons of pics at once, etc?)

Lastly, gigabit. I've read Cat 5e is capable of gigabit connections, but Cat 6 is claiming to be better. How it's better baffles me, I've not seen anything that I understand that distinctly says I'm better than the lesser, and it's even cheaper in bulk on newegg. I've also seen where the powers that be in the audio/video world have or are getting ready to release a new standard that will surpass hdmi, that being in the form of an ethernet cable. If that doesn't go the way of betamax, I'd like to be capable of running something like that in the future. Not to mention every blu-ray/tv/etc is coming already internet-ready these days.

Just for reference, here's what all I will currently have on the network, followed by possible add-ins later on:

Current:

  • Desktop PC
  • Xbox
  • Ethernet accessable 1TB HD (slower than molasses currently)
  • Wireless router
Future:


  • NAS box of some type, whether it be a converted PC, or a purpose built box.
  • Tv tuner for the current desktop (not an issue, just run a coax while wiring the network)
  • Blu-Ray in the entertainment center, and possibly bedroom both. Both internet ready for Pandora, youtube, blockbuster, netflix. Have to have hardline.
I know I'm forgetting something I had in mind for future addon, but you get the idea. Thanks for any suggestions "thumbsup"
 
I would go for a gigabit switch. it will put less strain on your router.
Cat 5e cable is better magnetically shielded than normal Cat 5. Cat 6 is true "gigabit" cable. (note you will never reach that speed as its all theoretical:roll:)
I would go with cat 5e cable for the devices in and around your media center and other possible sources of high levels of magnetism. The rest can be wired with Cat 5 or 6 cable, its your call.
with switches I would go with a 16 port one, but the catch is that after around 50 ft cable legnth the signal degrades significantly, so based on the legnth line your running and the distances/size of your condo you may want to run 2 8 port switches as each time the signal from the cable hits the switch, it is amplified again allowing for more distance
Basically here would be your network map.Its not very detailed but it should help give you a general idea

Modem> E cable> Switch(16 port or 2x 8 port|>wireless router
|>PC
|>xbox
|>current Nas
|>
|>(and so on
hope this helps
 
Sounds like a plan. I run cable for a living and here's what I would install:

cat 5e for all cable
24 port patch panel
16 port switch, I'd pick up a used or new cisco that is capable of power over ethernet, I just prefer cisco switches, but haveing the powerered version will be a money saver in the future. This is what I'm running at my house and I was able to pick up a NIB cisco wireless access point off the bay for $179. I mounted it in my porch out of the weather and now I have wireless in my whole yard.

We run cables all the time and you shouldn't have to cut up you walls to much with a few simple tools.

A strong magnet
a magnet attached to a wire coat hanger
10' of fine steel chain
a fish tape
a plumb bob
builders string
fish rods/glowsticks
a flex drill bit and tool

You can attach the string to a short piece of the chain and wrap the big magnet in a paper towel and drag the chain accross the ceiling or down a wall.

If you have any questions about how to get a wire where ya need it to go without tearing up your house drop me a note.
 
Awesome! That's exactly the kind of info I was looking for, Thanks fellas!! "thumbsup" I'll be looking at what all I need to buy later on this afternoon, I'm sure I'll be back with a couple of more questions then. ;-)

I highly doubt I'll have any runs of wire over 50' in length. If I do, I'll just find a new place to set all the equipment.
 
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