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New class to encourage newbs..

We have done this with scalers before. One guy showed up with an AX-10 and a scale body, but we let him run anyway instead of turning him away. We scored him, but didn't enter the points at the end of the day.

I like the idea of letting anyone run regardless of the rig in Sporty. If they don't meet spec, run them anyway and show them what they "would" have gotten for points had they been legal. They might come back with a legal rig next time.

I also like the idea of a loaner rig...I might have to look into that and maybe build one up. I think I have the parts.
We are doing this at the moment just to get more entries except that we do score. I recently was told that I would not get a prize but be declared as over all winner just by running a full comp rig against trial trucks.
 
We are doing this at the moment just to get more entries except that we do score. I recently was told that I would not get a prize but be declared as over all winner just by running a full comp rig against trial trucks.

I think a beginner class should be anything you want to run. That way you can move on to another class that the truck would be legal in later. If you want to run a MOA or shaftie you could, and then later move to 2.2pro or 2.2s without investing in another vehicle.

I think that's one thing I don't like about a spec class being a beginner class or vice versa.
 
I think a beginner class should be anything you want to run. That way you can move on to another class that the truck would be legal in later. If you want to run a MOA or shaftie you could, and then later move to 2.2pro or 2.2s without investing in another vehicle.

I think that's one thing I don't like about a spec class being a beginner class or vice versa.

That is how NWARC runs Sportsman. If you're new, that's where you run.
 
I am wanting to compete in the future & learn as much as possible before diving in.
What I am most concerned about is: I have very little information on DRIVING.
There are endless amounts of tech threads (THANKS!)
Endless Build threads, product discussions, comp results & custom building ideas & techniques but,
Where are the threads explaining driving technique?
I can "practice" on the toughest things I can find, hone my control skills & fine tune my rig but.
If I don't have some idea what I am going to face @ a comp most of my practice is for naught.
A video walkthrough of a comp course with narration explaing basic driving techniques would be great.
Time & $$ are my biggest limiting factors.
I am building my rig to be able to compete & I understand I will have to go learn technique on the comp course but it would be helpful to get some "you need to do this in these situations" or a "never do this there" would help me prepare for the limited comps I may be able to attend.
I think more info on here about how to improve your driving skills would help me attend comps sooner & more confidently.
 
I am wanting to compete in the future & learn as much as possible before diving in.
What I am most concerned about is: I have very little information on DRIVING.
There are endless amounts of tech threads (THANKS!)
Endless Build threads, product discussions, comp results & custom building ideas & techniques but,
Where are the threads explaining driving technique?
I can "practice" on the toughest things I can find, hone my control skills & fine tune my rig but.
If I don't have some idea what I am going to face @ a comp most of my practice is for naught.
A video walkthrough of a comp course with narration explaing basic driving techniques would be great.
Time & $$ are my biggest limiting factors.
I am building my rig to be able to compete & I understand I will have to go learn technique on the comp course but it would be helpful to get some "you need to do this in these situations" or a "never do this there" would help me prepare for the limited comps I may be able to attend.
I think more info on here about how to improve your driving skills would help me attend comps sooner & more confidently.
Sounds like a good idea, but actually either doing GTG's with some local comp guys, or just comping is the way to go.

My son bought a used crawler. He ran around on rocks for fun. He found a "local" group and wanted to go to a comp.

We did, it was great (the people were a large part of it).
They guided him through the course.
They looked his rig over and made suggestions.
He read a lot on here to learn more.

There may be videos that talk a bit about "what to do when", but actually doing it is better in my mind.
Also, seeing a real comp course gives you an idea on what to expect. Then you can find a close spot on which to practice on. Somewhere you can do for an hour on a weekend, after work, etc.
 
Newb class should be a simple rtr class I have brought this up several times on here
Ok so the cr-01 isn't a legal chassi either then just trying to figure this out guys. We realy need a box stock class for those of us that don't have the extra to throw on a 500 Dollar rig. Rules would be simple must be box stock other than electronics and water proofing elc must work as the did in stock form ei no digs on moa unless the came from factor. tires and body can be swapped. Ties must be a factory style tire ie came on a box stock crawler. classes by tire size scale and comp decided by body. If it looks like something you might see on trail it is a scaler if not its comp. scale accessories allowed on scaler. Big rule no whining bigger rule have fun

From latest discussion the key to making this work would be a spirt of intent rule ie knowing the spirt of the class and rules and letting people have fun
 
Newb class should be a simple rtr class I have brought this up several times on here

The only problem I see with that is making people go out and get the required RTR in order to compete. What about the driver who picked up a used XR-10 in the classifieds and now wants to give comping a shot, or someone borrowing their buddies Losi Comp Crawler for the day? What about someone who gets the required RTR only to find out they like scalers better?

I think a "run what ya brung" approach will get more people involved, without requiring them to go out and get a truck they may not continue with.
 
That's actually a pretty good idea!

I've always found his radio tutorials very helpful, so I nominate Harley "thumbsup"


Can you imagine the amount of orange we would see in that. :shock: :ror:



But that could be a great thing for people to watch, even do one on course judging too. "thumbsup"
 
I can just imagine some micro crawlers showing up. Where the hell am I going to find some 1/4 inch diameter tennis balls? :)
 
I can just imagine some micro crawlers showing up. Where the hell am I going to find some 1/4 inch diameter tennis balls? :)
Nah....regular "cut in half" tennis balls WOULD BE the course!:shock:

:lmao::lmao:

[waiting for the posts by owners of micro crawlers saying they can crawl bigger stuff than tennis balls.......]8)
 
The only problem I see with that is making people go out and get the required RTR in order to compete. What about the driver who picked up a used XR-10 in the classifieds and now wants to give comping a shot, or someone borrowing their buddies Losi Comp Crawler for the day? What about someone who gets the required RTR only to find out they like scalers better?

I think a "run what ya brung" approach will get more people involved, without requiring them to go out and get a truck they may not continue with.

That's were the spirt of intent rule comes in as far as the scale thing like it says if it looks like something you might see on a trail it's a scaler ie body looks like a real truck my thought process is a cheap class that anyone can comp in kinda a catch all class were the main point is have fun
 
I'd like to chime in on this subject....

Before I got into crawlers, I owned a Slayer. It started as just a basher, but I quickly realized I wanted to be competitive and get into racing. I had no problem throw money at the hobby. Went to my first event. Truck had plenty of problems. Local guys came over and got me up and running in minutes. But the real problem wasn't money, or support, but my lack of driving ability. I couldn't connect jumps to landings, or judge distance to keep the truck on the track. People were there giving me advice, but it was of no help. My own ability as a driver stopped me from ever doing anything more with it. Hell, maybe I was as interested as I thought I was.

What am I getting at?

I don't think spending is most peoples issues. Used trucks can be had, and its not terrible to get a basic starter rig.

I don't think a lack of help is the problem either. Every event and clubs event I've been too, has had people that wanted nothing more then to see each other succeed and beat each other.

So where's the problem?

I have a feeling a lot of people get into the hobby with nothing more then a slim interest. It looks fun to them and easy. A few courses in they realize its not at all easy at first. Same way I went into racing and just shy-ed away. I suppose making courses easier would help keep the initial interest, but if they no want to learn how to drive and understand the truck, they'll never be in it for the long haul anyways. Most just want to point the truck and hope it makes it up the climb.

Another key factor, is the average joe wants to go out to a LHS and buy everything they need and want. Most don't dive into a community until they decide that they're 100% interested and want to stick it out. It's not easy to find the parts you need for crawlers and there's so many choices, it is beyond overwhelming. Then they must contact numerous different vendors in order to get the parts they want. Can be daunting and a hassle, especially if you don't know who to contact.

And for those dealing with decline in numbers, I can totally understand this. Our club has declined dramatically, in the past year or two. I think a big reason goes back to the same reasons as above. The big pros are pushing the limits. They drive, practice, and comp numerous times a month. The declining members were only once a month or so comp'ers. So without the constant driving practice, its frustrating trying to keep up from just a driver stand point. A lot of these same guys don't know how to keep the trucks cutting edge. And they thus find themselves, overwhelmed thinking that because they don't have the latest and greatest, they can't keep up. That's simply not true at all.

Everything comes down to practice, practice, practice. If you can't get the new guys out practice, they will never become a good driver, and never stick around the hobby.
 
Nah....regular "cut in half" tennis balls WOULD BE the course!:shock:

:lmao::lmao:

[waiting for the posts by owners of micro crawlers saying they can crawl bigger stuff than tennis balls.......]8)

My micro can crawl bigger stuff than a tennis ball


Their you go lol

But I would love some micro comps in my area I love my micros
 
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