Justin_Eclipse
Newbie
Hello all,
Hey, I'm new to this site. I've been reading a lot of posts in quite a few different sections on this site; but still can't seem to find something that meets my personal build requirements/desires. So, any suggested products need to be bolt of products or products that require minor modifications (ie. dremmel tool type work). My biggest problem is that even though I have spent a lot time researching the RC Crawler sport; I still simply don't know enough to just run out and buy each individual part and put the thing together for myself.
I think the best way to ensure that I get the best and most accurate response from you experienced RC'ers; is to go into great detail and explanation (and photos) of exactly what I'm wanting out of my super crawler rig. I will try to make this as structured and organized of a post as I can. Below is what I want my Super RC to be and what issues/questions I'm faced with.
1- General Scale, Appearance and Material:
For scale, of course nothing smaller than a 1:8th scale and nothing larger than a 1:5th scale (I'm not too fond of 1:5th and 1:6th scale rigs, 1:8th is perfect... but bigger is always fun too
). For material I want it to be 100% aluminum or as close to as possible. I want as little pastic as possible and I would really like it if it was colored aluminum. Like the Killer Krawler 1:5th scale Orange rig is really cool. Problem with that is, I dont want to pay 700 dollars for one and it is 1:5th scale... but I love the way it looks. I have also looked at the XTM crawler chassis setup and I like it... but from what I have read most people spend quite a bit of money making it into a competent rock crawler and even then stuff gets bent on it pretty easily. So, I'm not that impressed by the XTM's survivability factor. Kind of one of the issuea I have with the killer krawler as well, my motto is: Bigger, Heavier, More likely things will get broken (correct me if that is the wrong mentality please). For appearance I want it to look like a real rock crawler Jeep buggy, see picture below to get an idea. This is actually my friends vehicle that I helped him build. The vehicle does have side panels and small rear fender side panels, with of course an aluminum roof on top. This is the general look that I want; so I suppose to full bodiless rig won't work for me. I'm gonna just post a link to pictures...
http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=942900&page=3
2- Motors/ESC, Electronics and Drive:
I've pretty well decided on going with the Novak Goat 2S Crawler Brushless System 21.5T w/ matching esc of course. The idea is to buy 2 of these with MOA Axels and 2 Batteries. For batteries I'm thinking the Turnigy nano-tech 3300mah 2S 25~50C Lipo Pack. Servos I am not too sure what would be the best fit for this super crawler, so I've included a link of a servo that I thought would work good. Please let me know if there are problems with the combination of these products. For drive I want 4WS for sure. I am not too concerned about having a DIG function right now, or even having one at all...
Link for Motors/ESC:
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdId=NOV3016
Link for Batteries:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=11922
Link for Servos:
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdId=HRC37954S#quickSpecs
3- Goals:
A very strong and durable rig thats easy to maintain, I don't want servos burning out after 100 hours of run time.
I want a faster vehicle than walk speed. Ideally I'd like a vehicle capable of going jogging speed.
I want a finished and ready to run product for around 1250 dollars.
I do not plan on doing competitions with this vehicle, maybe in the future, but as of right now I do not. So I do not need 100% hardcore comp parts; I just want the strongest and most durable parts.
Now I understand people have posted plenty about each individual product and chassis. My purpose of this post is to try and find a vehicle that matches my credentials outlined in item #1 while being used in conjunction with the products in item #2.
4- Things I don't know about:
-Axle gearing and what would be the correct setup w/ my desired combination of parts.
-Pinion gear size
-Correct tire width and height (probably start with standard tires?)
-BEC and if required and or the real function of one... saves battery life right? but with 2 batteries, is BEC needed?
-I thank it is called NPA's? They are a safety stop feature built into the radio to prevent burning out your servos? Good idea to get or simply not needed for recreational crawling?
-Correct shock oil weights (I assume one finds that out after many test and runs tries?)
- 2S lipo and motor/esc setup or upgrade to 3S equipment and if the answer is upgrade, then how do 7.4v servos work with 11.1v batteries? Perhaps some type of voltage regulator?
-Killer Krawler Short Wheel Base Upgrade Kit (VS.) Killer Krawler Long Wheel Base Upgrade Kit; I am kind of failing to see how this is an upgrade to the stock killer krawler configuration... if KK is the only chassis setup for me then I would love to have these things explained a little bit more. For example, the fact that these are even made implies that the stock KK setup is bad (these are advertised as upgrades). Just a little confusing... See link below for products in question.
http://www.rcrockcrawling.com/index.php?cPath=47_110
So, with that I thank all of you who respond and appreciate all of the help I get. I want to get into super rock crawling, I just cant quite figure out how... considering the requirements I want for my vehicle. (I have thought of buying the redcat super crawler and just upgrading it... but that seems like a waiste of money? Thoughts?)
Thanks again all and sorry for the long length post,
-Justin
Hey, I'm new to this site. I've been reading a lot of posts in quite a few different sections on this site; but still can't seem to find something that meets my personal build requirements/desires. So, any suggested products need to be bolt of products or products that require minor modifications (ie. dremmel tool type work). My biggest problem is that even though I have spent a lot time researching the RC Crawler sport; I still simply don't know enough to just run out and buy each individual part and put the thing together for myself.
I think the best way to ensure that I get the best and most accurate response from you experienced RC'ers; is to go into great detail and explanation (and photos) of exactly what I'm wanting out of my super crawler rig. I will try to make this as structured and organized of a post as I can. Below is what I want my Super RC to be and what issues/questions I'm faced with.
1- General Scale, Appearance and Material:
For scale, of course nothing smaller than a 1:8th scale and nothing larger than a 1:5th scale (I'm not too fond of 1:5th and 1:6th scale rigs, 1:8th is perfect... but bigger is always fun too
). For material I want it to be 100% aluminum or as close to as possible. I want as little pastic as possible and I would really like it if it was colored aluminum. Like the Killer Krawler 1:5th scale Orange rig is really cool. Problem with that is, I dont want to pay 700 dollars for one and it is 1:5th scale... but I love the way it looks. I have also looked at the XTM crawler chassis setup and I like it... but from what I have read most people spend quite a bit of money making it into a competent rock crawler and even then stuff gets bent on it pretty easily. So, I'm not that impressed by the XTM's survivability factor. Kind of one of the issuea I have with the killer krawler as well, my motto is: Bigger, Heavier, More likely things will get broken (correct me if that is the wrong mentality please). For appearance I want it to look like a real rock crawler Jeep buggy, see picture below to get an idea. This is actually my friends vehicle that I helped him build. The vehicle does have side panels and small rear fender side panels, with of course an aluminum roof on top. This is the general look that I want; so I suppose to full bodiless rig won't work for me. I'm gonna just post a link to pictures...http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=942900&page=3
2- Motors/ESC, Electronics and Drive:
I've pretty well decided on going with the Novak Goat 2S Crawler Brushless System 21.5T w/ matching esc of course. The idea is to buy 2 of these with MOA Axels and 2 Batteries. For batteries I'm thinking the Turnigy nano-tech 3300mah 2S 25~50C Lipo Pack. Servos I am not too sure what would be the best fit for this super crawler, so I've included a link of a servo that I thought would work good. Please let me know if there are problems with the combination of these products. For drive I want 4WS for sure. I am not too concerned about having a DIG function right now, or even having one at all...
Link for Motors/ESC:
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdId=NOV3016
Link for Batteries:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=11922
Link for Servos:
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdId=HRC37954S#quickSpecs
3- Goals:
A very strong and durable rig thats easy to maintain, I don't want servos burning out after 100 hours of run time.
I want a faster vehicle than walk speed. Ideally I'd like a vehicle capable of going jogging speed.
I want a finished and ready to run product for around 1250 dollars.
I do not plan on doing competitions with this vehicle, maybe in the future, but as of right now I do not. So I do not need 100% hardcore comp parts; I just want the strongest and most durable parts.
Now I understand people have posted plenty about each individual product and chassis. My purpose of this post is to try and find a vehicle that matches my credentials outlined in item #1 while being used in conjunction with the products in item #2.
4- Things I don't know about:
-Axle gearing and what would be the correct setup w/ my desired combination of parts.
-Pinion gear size
-Correct tire width and height (probably start with standard tires?)
-BEC and if required and or the real function of one... saves battery life right? but with 2 batteries, is BEC needed?
-I thank it is called NPA's? They are a safety stop feature built into the radio to prevent burning out your servos? Good idea to get or simply not needed for recreational crawling?
-Correct shock oil weights (I assume one finds that out after many test and runs tries?)
- 2S lipo and motor/esc setup or upgrade to 3S equipment and if the answer is upgrade, then how do 7.4v servos work with 11.1v batteries? Perhaps some type of voltage regulator?
-Killer Krawler Short Wheel Base Upgrade Kit (VS.) Killer Krawler Long Wheel Base Upgrade Kit; I am kind of failing to see how this is an upgrade to the stock killer krawler configuration... if KK is the only chassis setup for me then I would love to have these things explained a little bit more. For example, the fact that these are even made implies that the stock KK setup is bad (these are advertised as upgrades). Just a little confusing... See link below for products in question.
http://www.rcrockcrawling.com/index.php?cPath=47_110
So, with that I thank all of you who respond and appreciate all of the help I get. I want to get into super rock crawling, I just cant quite figure out how... considering the requirements I want for my vehicle. (I have thought of buying the redcat super crawler and just upgrading it... but that seems like a waiste of money? Thoughts?)
Thanks again all and sorry for the long length post,
-Justin
