Official MTB / Mountain Biking Chit Chat

[JeremyH]

Speaking of moving, third Monday in row running today. Figure it belongs in here, as I'm only doing it to help my cycling.

"thumbsup"

Been running quite a bit myself here lately. Regularly put down 5 miles with an average pace of 8:30 or so (even got into the 7's once)....not bad for me. Been doing triathlon sprints. Fun stuff.

 

[hpiguy]

Then you're the right guy to ask Jeremy. Have you always had running in your routine, or did you get back into it at some point? If it's the latter, if you run say on Monday, do your legs still feel "tight" if you ride on Wednesday? Reason I ask, is obviously running is more taxing on the body, as you can never coast; but when I get on the bike on Wednesday, I still feel my puny little run from Monday. I do stretch afterward for both activities, and I'm sure with time it will get better, but does that ever go away?

 

[JeremyH]

Yeah, that should go away after a few weeks of running.

I started back running about a year ago (a few years after I stepped up my riding) and for the first few weeks, it would make my groin and calves really sore....but that tapered off. These days, the only thing that makes me sore is Crossfit....and I've been using cycling and running to work out the soreness from that. :lol:

My wife is a distance runner so I get some tips from her. The best info she gave me on running is to shoot for negative splits. Your Garmin should show you that through Garmin Connect....or you can download MapMyRun/Ride and it can show you. That app syncs nicely with Garmin stuff.

Another thing you can try is to pick up some BCAA's and drink them after you run or bike. I really like these:
Review of ISO-Amino gives MAN the award for best tasting amino
Great flavors (I like the Nerds/Dorks flavor) and it seems to help with soreness.

 

[hpiguy]

Welp, you pretty much nailed it, groin and calves it is. I'll do some reading on negative splits and see what that's all about.

For post run I've been doing lowfat chocolate milk, pretty sure it has bcaa in there, but again, I'll read up and research it.

Thanks a ton Jeremy, I really appreciate it. I didn't want to give up on the running as I'm already seeing cardio results from it and some hiking in just a month.

 

[Natedog]

Thanks for the good advice JeremyH, back in my heavy lifting days free form BCAAs were definitely helpful...they should help recovery and building for any type of strenuous physical activity. I find eating enough protein helps too, sometimes after good ride if I eat good protein portion I feel better faster too.

I don't use any of the electronic tracking stuff, what are negative splits? Sooo I looked it up:

A perfect negative split run is when each mile is faster than the last. Most runners still consider the run to be a negative split if you start slower and finish faster, even if there is a mile or two in the middle where your pace is slightly positive

 

[JeremyH]

Yep, just getting faster with each mile. You can check your pace with just a regular old watch too. No need for a fancy one.

Yeah, getting protein and aminos from regular food is good....just faster with the powder. This powder is just mixed in with water, which I am ingesting already after each of those exercises. I eat quite a bit of hard boiled eggs and I usually put some Bragg's Aminos on them. I've always liked hard boiled eggs with salt or soy sauce on it....and this tastes just like soy sauce.

 

[Natedog]

Yes, I just watch my time, mileage and where in my ride route I am compared to watch/cellphone, I know when I'm faster.

Bragg's makes good organic foodstuff.

 

[hpiguy]

Damn, now I want some boiled eggs. :mrgreen:

Also, it looks like the negative split thing is more of a racing strategy deal than training. Is that true? I mean, is there a benefit to it for just trying to improve your cardio?

 

[JeremyH]

Damn, now I want some boiled eggs. :mrgreen:

Also, it looks like the negative split thing is more of a racing strategy deal than training. Is that true? I mean, is there a benefit to it for just trying to improve your cardio?

She told me that it helps you pace yourself (keeps you from hauling ass at first) so you have the energy to run with good form toward the end of your run.

 

[JeremyH]

BTW, I meant to tell you that I liked how you made the name of your workout rhyme. So I think I will implement the same scheme into my day......"Friday PieDay" :lol:

 

[hpiguy]

Cool, thanks again Jeremy, I'll break my route down into .5 mile chunks and give that a go Monday.

Nate, if you liked that, then you're gonna love Tuesday Boozeday. :lmao:

 

[Natedog]

Damn, now I want some boiled eggs. :mrgreen:

Also, it looks like the negative split thing is more of a racing strategy deal than training. Is that true? I mean, is there a benefit to it for just trying to improve your cardio?

She told me that it helps you pace yourself (keeps you from hauling ass at first) so you have the energy to run with good form toward the end of your run.

What JeremyH said and it helps you push yourself to ride faster, especially when riding alone. When I ride with others, the pace somehow is always maintained. Fortunately or unfortunately that can turn a spin recovery ride into grinder. :lmao::mrgreen:"thumbsup"

 

[canadianbacon]

Lately on long rides, my groin (or ligament from my left leg to pubic area) gets sore. The first few times it happened it was still sore 2 days later then went away, but last time it was fine the next day. I stretch before I go, but maybe I need to do more? Could it be my seat isn't raised enough (or too much) and I'm putting too much strain while completing pedal strokes? It's only on my left side, my right side hasn't acted up.

 

[XJrob]

Anyone have any recommendations for cell phone mounts that will withstand some single tracking??

Was looking at the gear beast claw 3. Need to look into it further though

 

[hpiguy]

What JeremyH said and it helps you push yourself to ride faster, especially when riding alone. When I ride with others, the pace somehow is always maintained. Fortunately or unfortunately that can turn a spin recovery ride into grinder. :lmao::mrgreen:"thumbsup"

I thought we were talking about running? :mrgreen:

Lately on long rides, my groin (or ligament from my left leg to pubic area) gets sore. The first few times it happened it was still sore 2 days later then went away, but last time it was fine the next day. I stretch before I go, but maybe I need to do more? Could it be my seat isn't raised enough (or too much) and I'm putting too much strain while completing pedal strokes? It's only on my left side, my right side hasn't acted up.

Are you giving yourself time to warm up, or just hammering right out of the gate? Too hard too early on cold muscles will do that for sure.

 

[ped453]

Lately on long rides, my groin (or ligament from my left leg to pubic area) gets sore. The first few times it happened it was still sore 2 days later then went away, but last time it was fine the next day. I stretch before I go, but maybe I need to do more? Could it be my seat isn't raised enough (or too much) and I'm putting too much strain while completing pedal strokes? It's only on my left side, my right side hasn't acted up.

If you already have kids like me, then you do not need them balls.lol. Just in case you don't and still need them. I had the same problem and found out that mine is a combination of the angle of my saddle and being set-up up too high. I hope this will help you heal your balls.

 

[hpiguy]

^^

He's talking about his groin muscle, nobody said balls. Well nobody but you. :lmao:

 

[canadianbacon]

Are you giving yourself time to warm up, or just hammering right out of the gate? Too hard too early on cold muscles will do that for sure.

I give myself a few miles to warm up, just a good cadence on easy roads/trails. It only happens when I almost done too, like the last 30 mins or so.

If you already have kids like me, then you do not need them balls.lol. Just in case you don't and still need them. I had the same problem and found out that mine is a combination of the angle of my saddle and being set-up up too high. I hope this will help you heal your balls.

Nope, no kids lol. And it's not my balls that are sore, it's my groin ligament haha. I'll try lowering my seat a bit, and checking the angle of it too. I've given myself a couple weeks off the bike to heal, so I started fishing :mrgreen:"thumbsup"

 

[ped453]

^^

He's talking about his groin muscle, nobody said balls. Well nobody but you. :lmao:

I give myself a few miles to warm up, just a good cadence on easy roads/trails. It only happens when I almost done too, like the last 30 mins or so.

Nope, no kids lol. And it's not my balls that are sore, it's my groin ligament haha. I'll try lowering my seat a bit, and checking the angle of it too. I've given myself a couple weeks off the bike to heal, so I started fishing :mrgreen:"thumbsup"

oops sorry boys.lol.

 

[lunatick]

Lately on long rides, my groin (or ligament from my left leg to pubic area) gets sore. The first few times it happened it was still sore 2 days later then went away, but last time it was fine the next day. I stretch before I go, but maybe I need to do more? Could it be my seat isn't raised enough (or too much) and I'm putting too much strain while completing pedal strokes? It's only on my left side, my right side hasn't acted up.

I get this if my seat is to high