One of my 6th grade students WWII projects

[TattooKenny]

My question is what about the kids without 2 parents at home, no one to help them? The painting is great but it's not hard to project it onto poster board and trace it for her then color it? The dad gets a A+. Maybe have the students do a report to go with the posters so you know they understand what they were about instead of it turning into Art 101. You can clearly see who had help and who didn't in the picts. Looks like you have a awesome class though"thumbsup"

My mom would help me in the thought process of a project but wouldn't get to hands on. I was always told "It's your work not mine, I did mine when I was in school, your turn!" Having the parents involved is great but having them do 95% of the work is not.....

 

[nascarkeith]

My question is what about the kids without 2 parents at home, no one to help them? The painting is great but it's not hard to project it onto poster board and trace it for her then color it? The dad gets a A+. Maybe have the students do a report to go with the posters so you know they understand what they were about instead of it turning into Art 101. You can clearly see who had help and who didn't in the picts. Looks like you have a awesome class though"thumbsup"

My mom would help me in the thought process of a project but wouldn't get to hands on. I was always told "It's your work not mine, I did mine when I was in school, your turn!" Having the parents involved is great but having them do 95% of the work is not.....

Yeah that is kinda a tough one you face as a teacher. Most of my kids only have one parent who works all the time so they are basically on their own. That is why if you turned the project in on time you pretty well got an A. That may sound ridiculous to some but if they put some kind of effort into it they got a good grade because just getting a piece of poster board and taking time out of cooking for your little brother to color is a big deal for some of these kids.

 

[wireman-]

I know the school where he teaches,Its got to be a pain to even teach there.All i can say is good luck to him.

 

[JasonInAugusta]

Yeah that is kinda a tough one you face as a teacher. Most of my kids only have one parent who works all the time so they are basically on their own. That is why if you turned the project in on time you pretty well got an A. That may sound ridiculous to some but if they put some kind of effort into it they got a good grade because just getting a piece of poster board and taking time out of cooking for your little brother to color is a big deal for some of these kids.

It's hard to teach. Even harder when you care about what you're doing and take pride in attempting to do the right thing by giving students the grades that they actually earn.

I did this, I failed students. In the military.

It was ME that ended up in the office explaining myself. :roll:

My explanation went like this...

"No, I didn't fail the guy. He failed to achieve a passing score even though he's been through this annex several times. If he was going to get it, he'd have done so on the first or second attempt. He's been here five times and is still failing. I'm thinking it's time to find a new MOS for this kid 'cause secure communications just isn't his thing. People's lives will depend on this kid's ability to do his job and, for the last three months, he hasn't grasped the basic concepts of what everything else he'll learn is based on. Make the kid a cook, a supply guy, something."

They didn't like it. :lol:

The kid ended up going through the program yet again, and "passed" the course. :roll:

Even the military is doing the crap. The bad thing is that these kids get to their unit, don't have the aptitude for the job, but instead of being weeded out in training there's pressure on the instructors to just send the kids through so they can go downrange.

Seriously, if I have to teach a kid to use a calculator (because he can't do complicated math like....say...division and multiplication), and show him on an almost daily basis how to perform basic troubleshooting steps, why does this kid "need" to be repairing communications equipment?

But there are good times teaching. When you see that light bulb come on in a kid's head, especially after he's been struggling...that's good stuff.

 

[JeremyH]

The kid ended up going through the program yet again, and "passed" the course. :roll:

Agreed!

This goes on too often these days and it helps NO ONE! The kid then leaves school thinking he is good at something he is not and is only a severe disappointment to his employer/peers....

 

[karlos]

It's hard to teach. Even harder when you care about what you're doing and take pride in attempting to do the right thing by giving students the grades that they actually earn.

I did this, I failed students. In the military.

It was ME that ended up in the office explaining myself. :roll:

My explanation went like this...

"No, I didn't fail the guy. He failed to achieve a passing score even though he's been through this annex several times. If he was going to get it, he'd have done so on the first or second attempt. He's been here five times and is still failing. I'm thinking it's time to find a new MOS for this kid 'cause secure communications just isn't his thing. People's lives will depend on this kid's ability to do his job and, for the last three months, he hasn't grasped the basic concepts of what everything else he'll learn is based on. Make the kid a cook, a supply guy, something."

They didn't like it. :lol:

The kid ended up going through the program yet again, and "passed" the course. :roll:

Even the military is doing the crap. The bad thing is that these kids get to their unit, don't have the aptitude for the job, but instead of being weeded out in training there's pressure on the instructors to just send the kids through so they can go downrange.

Seriously, if I have to teach a kid to use a calculator (because he can't do complicated math like....say...division and multiplication), and show him on an almost daily basis how to perform basic troubleshooting steps, why does this kid "need" to be repairing communications equipment?

But there are good times teaching. When you see that light bulb come on in a kid's head, especially after he's been struggling...that's good stuff.

I know what you mean. Having spent 8 years in the Army I have personally witnessed what you are refering to. I think your on to something though (note bold print in quote). Can you say cannonfodder? (joking-kinda) Perhaps a change of MOS to Infantry or truck driver would be a better option.