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Questions about HPI spider gears

DeviledEggs

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Hi guys and girls. Quick back story: So a couple weeks ago I decided to finally pull my original, 2yr old RTR front diff in favor of a new Dlux housing, HD r&p gears and a dose of 500k. The HPI spider gears went in at the same time...
So I go out and bash a few packs thru and all is well in the front end. Cut to the failure- I notice the car pulling hard to one side when heavy on the throttle. An output (non-ring gear side) has popped out its seat in the front diff. Well 3WD sucks so I go home thinking that the chincy e-clip slipped off, easy fix. I was kinda right. Unfortunately, that little e-clip also grenaded the spider gears and the output was trashed to boot.

Now onto the questions/concerns. With the spiders, I used the supplied shims in between the side gears. Was this wrong? I mean, the crystal clear diff oil- after maybe 2.5hrs run time- is now black and full of glitter. Spider gear material I imagine. Are the shims forcing the spiders together too tight causing excessive friction? I dont wanna put this thing all back together only to have the same problem down the line.
So, to shim or not to shim? Also, what size e-clips am I after for the outputs, the 2mm or 2.5mm? And finally, is there a better e-clip out there than Axial's offering? They seem pretty loose and I don't think its the machining of the output.

Thanks for looking!
 
I haven't really run mine yet but I didn't use the shims. Tried them during assembly and thought it'd be too tight.

I wasn't impressed with the supplied e clips. Far too loose and flimsy IMO but I haven't done anything about those yet.
 
Before adding fluid I tried my diff by hand both with and without shims. It felt like a better mesh with shims so I used them. So far so good.

Maybe could you squeeze the e-clip (2.5mm) closed a tiny bit before installing it on the outdrive.
 
Thanks for the tip. I ordered everything new besides bearings and r&p. Hot racing diff cup, HD exo outputs and new spiders. We'll see how it goes.
 
I'm interested to hear how it holds up. And those HR aluminum diff cups look pretty good too, haven't seen much info about them.

Even in a properly working diff, within a pack or two that crystal clear diff fluid is looking pretty murky. Guess it depends on how much diff action is taking place though.
 
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