What you fail to realize is the crazy rock bouncers we are talking about basically run on private property with areas designed just for them. A lot of the videos you see are shot at Wheeling in the Country and similar places. It's a private owned park with part of it setup for the rock bouncers.
Actually it is but that's a different topic. Public land or land owned by the state and federal government is bought paid for and maintained with OUR money. It our right to use it. Letting us use it is a different story. "Of the people, by the people, for the people."
Private land is just that and should stay that way. If a guy owns 100 acres and wants to charge bouncers and buggies admission to run it, that's his business and his land.
I agree with most everything your saying. But do you hear what I'm saying? Even if they have their own area(I do REALLY like this idea) they will eventually tear it up to the point that the owner of said land will close the trail/area using his right to take away the privilege of them(or anyone) using that trail or area of the park. Of course they can still pay to get in but then their buggies may go and tear up different parts of the property. I have seen vids of these in these "areas" you talk about(this I have no problem with), and I have also seen them on what appear through the camera lens to be doable trails(this I obviously do). One day I'll go to one and enjoy the insane power and awesome look the rigs have. But right now I'm thinking both long and short term about how they cause damage, and also how to prevent damage similar to what ROLANDROCKSHOP talks about with how Superlift ORV looked like after a day of them being there.
Of course what would be nice would be an area that is easily maintainable that after the rock bouncers leave they'd be able to restore the area to be similar to the way it was before they were there, kinda like supercross tracks, or the TTC stages.
Now onto why I think it is a privilege and not a right to use both private and public land:
Public:Now of course our "right" to use public land is based on, kind of like you say, if they feel like opening up the trails for our use. They can make any excuse they want to put up the gates barring our access and that is why I feel it is more of a privilege than a right.
Private:I agree that private land should stay that way. However, the owner of said land is giving the bouncers, buggys, and everyone else the privilege of using his land, whether you pay to get in or not. Sure you get in for the day but after that he has the right to not allow you to use his land any longer. In my mind the owner'd be more interested in the money the large number of little guys bring in long term than the rock bouncers that come in for a day or two abuse the land(that he and whoever help him maintain), then leave.
In the end I think we are thinking similarly. We both think rock bouncers should have their own area, the owners of offroad parks have the right to allow access to whoever they want, and we as citizens of the US have the right to use public land but aren't always allowed to exercise our right.
Ben
