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Romney , Ryan 2012 A+++++++

I am so pissed at what has happened in the last 4 years that I can't see straight. I'm not voting for Romney because he's GOP, I don't think he is our best bet. But what we have right now definately isn't good for our country.
I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired, I will become the electeds worst nightmare if they don't move us in a forward direction.
I will write congress, I will write the senate, I will get off my dead ass and get signatures if I'm lied to and I would hope there will be many others that will share in my desire to take our country back from the elected.
I don't hold your opinions against you as I hope you would do the same for me.
If someone better from the left were running against Obummer I may have voted for them if I thought they were a better choice. We really don't have a great choice but we have one, and I'm taking my chances with him.
A third party is pissin' in the wind, I ask you if your child is at school and is mistreated or lied to would you lay down and ignore it, because if we don't make our elected officials do what they say they will do and let them get away with anything they want to and hurt our country, it is our children who will be paying the piper and they will have no one to blame but us because we were unwilling to hold them accountable.





We're all snowflakes....:ror:




You're not voting for change, you're voting to put the other guys back in the big chair. Again.

And what will you do to tell them they've done a poor job? Vote GOP again?



We can agree on that.
 
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The 3rd party is pissing in the wind because everyone has come to believe that there are only two choices, and to vote any other way is like not voting at all.

Our votes are our voices. When you vote for someone you are giving them support, even if that is not your intention, that is how it is perceived.

If Obama is re-elected I promise you, we will not slink down into the pit of ultimate despair that we are being told will happen. It could get a little worse, it could get a little better. But we will not have the rug pulled from underneath us.

Remember, this is a GLOBAL economic crisis, not just a US & Europe crisis. It is not something one man can control or repair on his own.

Educate yourself, don't let the tv and radio do it for you.
 
This would have been better if it was a meme generator discussion.
 
Your funny Chris, a simple trip to the grocery store or the gas station is all that is needed to get a glimpse of what is happening.
My wife works at Walmart as a cashier, believe me when I say if we don't get things turned around the titty baby's are going to out number the working class and then is when we will fall off the proverbial cliff. When those that suck from the economy instead of those that contrbute out number us there will be no turning back. And it is'nt to far from there now.
 
Yeah, your right, people are struggling to keep there doors open while major industries like oil, gas, coal etc. are being regultaed out of buisness causing us to be ever more dependant on foriegn enemy's sources of fuels. Hell yeah, why not fund terrorist's with our cash we have to spend in the mid east to get our fuel supply, so what if that means that American's will die, at least we are'nt digging up lawns or cutting down trees to make us independent.
Yeah, bullshit is right.

Yeah big oil is really struggling. Must be why they get billions in tax breaks.
 
Your funny Chris, a simple trip to the grocery store or the gas station is all that is needed to get a glimpse of what is happening.
My wife works at Walmart as a cashier, believe me when I say if we don't get things turned around the titty baby's are going to out number the working class and then is when we will fall off the proverbial cliff. When those that suck from the economy instead of those that contrbute out number us there will be no turning back. And it is'nt to far from there now.

Walmart. They singlehandedly shut down at least a dozen small shops when they came to town. Got even worse when they built the Super Walmart.

Then Lowes and Home Depot showed up. They've killed all but one mom & pop hardware store.

There are many things about Walmart that is wrong. They are about as patriotic as a French Poodle.

See, thats just what I'm talking about. Doing something about the problem is a joke to most folks.

The joke was you in a jogging suit. Not many people get suited up to write angry letters.

Yeah because the goverment regulates them to export our own oil out of our country, the green agenda is alive and well in Obummer land.

We currently export 2 million barrels a day. We use 20 million a day. Oil exports have actually gone down a bit in the past few years. I don't see much of a base for argument there.
 
And I'm sure you don't shop at any of them "thumbsup".


Walmart. They singlehandedly shut down at least a dozen small shops when they came to town. Got even worse when they built the Super Walmart.

Then Lowes and Home Depot showed up. They've killed all but one mom & pop hardware store.

There are many things about Walmart that is wrong. They are about as patriotic as a French Poodle.
 
And I'm sure you don't shop at any of them "thumbsup".

I shop at Lowes because the one remaining hardware store now mainly caters to construction and rarely has what I need.

I shop at Walmart as little as possible. Don't always have a choice though. Not any more.
 
This is not a vote for Romney so much as a vote against Oblama.

That's about the best Romney can hope for.

I hear that shit every election year. Every. Election. Year. We have supposedly been teetering on the edge of socialism/communism/etc since before I was born. I say bullshit. It's scare tactics and apparently it is very effective.

Does anyone else see black helicopters?

You CAN vote for someone else, and it will make a difference. Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome is madness, and is what a majority of the voters do every election year.

How'd Ross Perot work out for ya? The Republicrat machine is too big to compete with; it's the Walmart of politics. Which explains the quality of the goods we're offered.

Let's see: Wishy-washy presidential candidate picks a younger running mate with solid conservative credentials to do the heavy lifting. Yeah, that'll work a whole lot better than it did 4 years ago. At least McCain had a little charisma, unlike that empty suit Romney.

This would have been better if it was a meme generator discussion.

Agreed.

You guys really think there's a difference between these jerkoffs? The radical lefty Obama has poured billions into the pockets of the same bankers and businessmen that Bush did.

The only way we'll get real change is to hit Washington with torches and pitchforks, and give every one of them the Mussolini treatment.
 
the green agenda has been alive and well since al gore started pimping it like a $2 whore. most of the green agenda is a farce, just ridiculous. the emissions policies for diesel engines comes to mind first. the mileage drop from the common-rail cummins trucks at my uncle's company to the 6.7L emissions was drastic. the average drop in economy was 7 miles per gallon, even worse when you factor in the DPF burn. he also has a crane that is emissions compliant. typically, the crane crew runs at a high idle for most of the day. the old crane was not by any frame of site good on fuel economy, but the new one is completely ridiculous. every 2 days on the site, they have to halt crane work and let the DPF burn out for 45 minutes, screaming at about 2k rpm.

the trucking industry is also getting bent over here. we had 3 non-DPF trucks, all hauling similar loads. they would get around 4 mpg, which considering the fact that hauling a combine is like hauling a large wall, was pretty good. the newer trucks get similar mileage overall, but the DPF burns affect the towing power and during that time, they get abysmal mileage. couple that with the increased complexity of the motors, and you've got a whole lot of trouble really fast. the cat twin-turbo ACERT motors are well know for being break happy piles. the mercedes motors are a nightmare to work on, and Detroits pretty much require a laptop there in the stall to diagnose petty crap like a sensor malfunction. haven't heard too much myself on the cummins motors.

the labor cost in maintaining the new emissions compliant trucks is nothing short of staggering compared to the older ones. now i know some will say "why does this suck so hard" well here's the answer. there are many fleet companies that make enough to cover the costs of maintaining their trucks, but the back bone of the trucking industry remains the owner-operator segment. having spent most of my life helping my father work on the truck and haul, i saw the end of the owner-operator coming. we only ran older trucks, nothing after 2000. 3 trucks that had a million miles each. the maintenance costs where high, but manageable. i have a friend that works in a truck repair shop, he's talked at length about the cost of the new motors, and the cost to the company to train him. a third to half more than we spent doing the same maintenance. when you're talking about a $12,000 engine overhaul, that turns into roughly $18,000 depending on the parts and labor costs to the shop, and the training the mechanic has under his belt. it all gets passed down to the owner-operator that is already suffering high fuel cost. truck based shipping is a huge part of the economy, and its all going down the drain.

not to mention the farming segment that is suffering high fuel and machinery costs. about $300,000 for a combine. $300,000. that's worth more than the land i'm on right now. so, farmers either make great friends with the banker, keep fixing things on older machines, lease, or bow out and rent their land. the bank should be obvious, i knew a man that had a fleet of earth moving equipment. if the bank didn't get a check every week, they took ownership of those machines. can you imagine having a 3 million dollar balancing act? the sad thing is that its not uncommon.

fixing the old machines sounds great, and if you're mechanically inclined, it is....for a while. until a serious problem arises and the machine has to be in the shop for 3 weeks. if that is your only tractor and you have work to do, you're up a creek. when you get the bill, pretty much just have to open the checkbook and close your eyes. i know a few people that are competent enough, and well equipped enough, to pull a motor that has seen its last rev, but not many can work on the modern transmissions and motors. i've worked on these machines since i was 5, i know the 50 series deeres like the back of the hand they mangled, but i would still not touch the main hydro pump, pull a motor, or even worse, pull the rotor.

leasing is what my father and i did as a living for a number of years. for the customer, its great. for the leasing company, its a logistical and monetary hell. we would get machines into the yard that needed half of the separator replaced. the main office would have to contact the customer, we would record all parts numbers, make a requisition order and send it to the main office. the field service rep would get called in, observe the damage, and talk to the customer as well. that's one machine. we had 260 machines, 5 trucks, an FSR in each state, an office staff of 20, and 5 yard laborers. i'm sure its obvious where things go sideways.

sadly, the old timers that love farming to their core are getting hit hardest. bowing out of the game and renting your land out to a large farming company is the only option. the large farming companies can easily run into the 10's of thousands of acres, much of it rented from people who couldn't make farming work anymore. so now, the farming companies are getting their own repair fleets and not to mention the 10's of millions of dollars in machinery. they provide employment to many, but its like walmart on a much scarier scale.

the green agenda has trickled down deep into the core of this country already, its reflected everywhere. i may not agree with many of the political views on this forum, but i do believe that something has to change in the very near future, or this country will go to hell in a hand basket. the bi-partisan politics that have taken over are responsible for much of the troubles we have, it is not a new thing, it has been this way for many years. when you have 2 parties always pointing at each other and crying foul, nothing gets done. party line voting kills any vote, the majority will always win. the paper clipped addendum's attached to many laws get through scott free, and we end up looking at the mess we call our legislative branch.

most of the time i stay well and truly out of the way on politics here, but i needed to state things as i see them.

Pete
 
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Yeah , I'm not voting for this criminal socialist dictator.

Dictators are not voted into office...

This would have been better if it was a meme generator discussion.

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I'd do Obama ones, but those are old and played out.
 
Does anyone else see black helicopters?

Ha! :flipoff:

I can't remember any election (other than immediately local ones) where someone wasn't trying to scare the shit out of you so you wouldn't vote for the other guy, then tell you if you voted for someone else entirely it was like handing the bad guy the win.

At least McCain had a little charisma, unlike that empty suit Romney.

True. I was gonna vote for McCain too.

the green agenda has been alive and well since al gore started pimping it like a $2 whore.

Yup. On some points its a good thing, most others its not. The only one I've seen benefit from it are Big Oil.
 
I just read all the crap in here...
I never said I was going to vote for O-man, or Nit-Wit-Mit, just stated how stupid I thought the GOP choice was. Every person in here is opposed to the two general party choices. Duuuuuuude (forgot how many "u"s) is the only one really stating a third choice is available, and being adamant about it.
I am not very political in general, but the two major parties need a fawking wake up call. An educated voter is a smart voter....pay attention friends...I truly can't believe anybody would vote for the jack-a$$
-greg
 
"an educated voter is a smart voter"
Do you know as much about the third party candidate as the other two?
I am only stating that Mit Romney is my last choice...
 
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