The cost of having worm gears

[KBrog]

I have to replace my worn out front worm gears, so I figured if the front is gone already I should replace the rear too. I went to order and, DAMN, its gonna cost 75 bucks to replace 2 spools and 2 worm pinions. OUCH MAN!!!

 

[old man 52]

dude that sucks, how many runs do you have on them?

 

[ROSS]

Are they the originals?
Did u contact rich about replacing them?

 

[firekiddc02]

Don't forget about the new brushless motor that got burn't up going into gate 8. Atleast you won though. Congrats again.

 

[KBrog]

Don't forget about the new brushless motor that got burn't up going into gate 8. Atleast you won though. Congrats again.

Thanks Mike. Thats the only thing that makes the carnage of a spool and a motor on the same course worth it. "thumbsup"

The spools are the originals that came in it. They have quite a bit of use on them. When I opened up the axle today, the spool and worm pinion showed serius wear, and when I got in a good bind at the comp, the front spool just gave up and stripped right around the same time the motor starting smoking. Maybe the spool getting ready to go out put extra bind on the motor? and it all went at once?

 

[SMR 510RR]

Maybe the spool getting ready to go out put extra bind on the motor? and it all went at once?

I would say that is likely.

Why cant fun stuff be cheap?

 

[LEADFOOT82]

Make sure the gears were cut right, If they were not take a pic and e-mail it to Rich. I had the rears go out in mine, missed that they were cut wrong in the beginning and ran them all season (whoops). Anyway Rich replaced them due to the fact they were cut wrong. I used Lucas red and tacky #2 grease, LOVE IT. And yes those little turds are not cheep.

 

[Synister_Intent]

I hate to be a noob, but that is what I am. LOL. But anyway I am about to get an LCC at the end of the week and I am curious as to what you mean by, "the gears were cut wrong"...

 

[silentcircus]

Chances are, any new LCC you pick up now will have the correct worm gears but earlier production units had some mis-cut worms. I'll see if I can find a pic on here of the bad ones so you have a point of reference.

Edit: The worms' gears should angle slightly down from the left to right rather than right to left or flat.

 

[70duncan]

That sucks about the used up gears. Let us know what you find out when you take them out. Would be nice to know if they were cut wrong or not.

 

[Synister_Intent]

Chances are, any new LCC you pick up now will have the correct worm gears but earlier production units had some mis-cut worms. I'll see if I can find a pic on here of the bad ones so you have a point of reference.

Edit: The worms' gears should angle slightly down from the left to right rather than right to left or flat.

Thanks dude, I think the one that I am about to get is a newer model of the LCC, is there a way that I can tell without taking the gears out?

 

[Scottmisfits]

You have to look at them to know. It's a lot of screws to get the axle apart but it's easy. You're going to want to do it to grease the axles anyway.

 

[silentcircus]

Yep, you will want to take them apart and PACK them in grease (I use Lucas Oil's Red'N'Tacky 2 grease for mine. Love it.), check the shims and probably remove one per side. If the gear is a tight fit in the axle housing, remove one shim per side. If there's already a little slop (probably won't be) then leave them both in.

You'll need to tear them down on occasion and repack them as well.

As far as telling a later model from an earlier one, check the serial number. Mine is 3291 and the gears are fine, but I've seen mention of some in the 1600s and 1800s still having the bad gears. If the one you're getting has been sitting on a shelf for awhile it's possible it'll be an early production unit.

 

[KBrog]

I have only taken the front apart so far. The teeth are cut correctly. They fall from left to right. I ordered two new sets from myatomic.com they seem to have the lowest price for the spools and worm pinions. Plus free shipping on orders over $25. I guess the rear is in about the same shape as the front. Ill take it apart later and get some pics of the damage.

 

[rockbender]

MAybe I should check mine it is LCC # 416 They replaced the cvd's maybe I shloud take them apart to check won't hurt to have a spare set.

 

[silentcircus]

Never hurts to have spares.

 

[KBrog]

Here are some pics of the damage. It was the worm pinion that actualy failed. Althought the spool has a lot of were. And looking at now, I dont think I should have removed one shim from each side because the pattern on the spool teeth look to be off to one side. The new spool went in with all four shims and is butter smooth. I did the drill hole in the axle trick to add more grease later. I had the axles all taken apart and picked up the shaft side and drilled the hole in it. I then drilled a hole in the other "correct" side of the axle, but in the end it work out great having a hole on both side because when I pump grease in one side I know its full when it come out the other side. All I can say is "after each comp, grease, grease, grease the spools".

 

[killa b]

that don't look good at all did you regularly grease them and those look straight cut to me thought they were supposed to slope left to right that could have been the problem

 

[KBrog]

that don't look good at all did you regularly grease them and those look straight cut to me thought they were supposed to slope left to right that could have been the problem

You know,,, I think your right... I looked at it when I took it out of the axle and it looked like it was slopping from left to right, but it was covered in grease. I washed it up for the picture and didnt really look at, ( I know its stupid ) I asked the wife to look at it,,, she says it look stright cut also, or even falling to the left.

 

[some87]

those are stright cut. did you ever feel your axles after a run because when i had those gears in mine they over heated like crazy.