it is the air of your post that i have to question the legitamacy of your experience with the summit.....chasis is same but torque and crawl capability make it a whole other machine.... findin a lot of negative opinions i have not experienced....a summit is a glorified e revo. you know what the e revo DID. It raced as in haul a.. around a track. the summit has racing to the core but with big cheesy doughnuts of rubber for tires and remote diff lock. the creeper has that to so nothing OG there