Ttc newred hobbies january 15,2012 free

[AsILayDying]

I must have missed something or not understanding.
I see all these scaler guys popping up and starting clubs (or resurrecting old ones).
Why be in a scaler club and want to participate in events but you're only willing to
throw a parma body on a scorpion and say "scale". Just seems hypocritical to me.
And believe me I do understand the whole money issues (for mods, etc.) as well.
Still being unemployed, I have to sell off things (or trade) to get the things I may want.
So that whole argument is out the window. Point being, if you want to do it then do it.
But if you're only willing to do it half-a$$ed or half-heartedly then don't cry if you’re
penalized or maybe even not allow to run (this would be extreme).


I find comps fun & enjoyable even with all the rules.
But they are there to keep folks on the same playing field.
I am not bashing, arguing or complaining, just expressing a view.

I decided to revive or actually start up a local club because the local club that had already been created was pretty much dead. @robotboy as for opinions or points of view..... That's the great thing about it, you can feel anyway you want and it's not wrong. I do agree just throwing a scale dodge body on an ax10 really doesn't make it a SCALE rig. The one that converts his ax to an scx10 and attempts to get a little more out of his build is good. I also agree it would be good to have a set rules for all the comps we have so like you have said we all have an equal playing field.

As for the list of acceptable tires... I'm cool with that since I believe tires can really give you an advantage over another driver. But for having scale accessories or full interior and things like this should just be bonus points for those who do have them or have done more to their rig. They should be rewarded for their hard work. I know there are more then a few that DON'T have winches, I myself only have one winch so I would have issues with this being a must. I am by no means complaining just kind of pointing out or discussing some ideas or situations for the upcoming comp year.

This is one reason why having a GTG before hand and discussing the upcoming comp or series is a good idea.

 

[hpirick]

Agreed "thumbsup"




Yes it is all about the fun, but at the same time there are rules for comps sake.
I do have a good time watching others drive as well!


I must have missed something or not understanding.
I see all these scaler guys popping up and starting clubs (or resurrecting old ones).
Why be in a scaler club and want to participate in events but you're only willing to
throw a parma body on a scorpion and say "scale". Just seems hypocritical to me.
And believe me I do understand the whole money issues (for mods, etc.) as well.
Still being unemployed, I have to sell off things (or trade) to get the things I may want.
So that whole argument is out the window. Point being, if you want to do it then do it.
But if you're only willing to do it half-a$$ed or half-heartedly then don't cry if you’re
penalized or maybe even not allow to run (this would be extreme).


I find comps fun & enjoyable even with all the rules.
But they are there to keep folks on the same playing field.
I am not bashing, arguing or complaining, just expressing a view.

i see what your saying, all im saying is that if someone does not have all the requirements for a comp dont just tell them to pack sand. Let the run, but at the same time guide them in the right direction so they can actually compete next time. If you tell someone they simply cant run, they may lose intrest. We all started somewhere is the rc game, some of the newbie just need a little guidence. hell, i still need some guidence and have questions every now and again.

 

[Robotboy]

I do agree just throwing a scale dodge body on an ax10 really doesn't make it a SCALE rig. The one that converts his ax to an scx10 and attempts to get a little more out of his build is good. I also agree it would be good to have a set rules for all the comps we have so like you have said we all have an equal playing field.

Exactly "thumbsup"

As for the list of acceptable tires... I'm cool with that since I believe tires can really give you an advantage over another driver. But for having scale accessories or full interior and things like this should just be bonus points for those who do have them or have done more to their rig. They should be rewarded for their hard work. I know there are more then a few that DON'T have winches, I myself only have one winch so I would have issues with this being a must.

Yes on the tire thing.

The scale accessories, etc., are bonus points and not neccessary. "thumbsup"
Just cool and a plus. Winches are not mandatory either (as far as I know)
but you lose points at a comp if one is needed.

 

[CRAWL UGLY]

I updated my original picture post with names for you, some are prolly wrong or I didn't know who so if anyone sees your rig mislabeled or with question marks let me know"thumbsup".

Thanks man i appreciate you posting those pics up. "thumbsup"


Thanks for posting up those pictures!

Thank You to all for coming out i had fun it was a good fun day of meeting and seeing new people and checking out everyone's rigs and build's...

Scattmans rocket ship drifter was fun to watch so was AsILayDying was fun to watch brake and smash every rig he has LOL..

Hope every one else had a good time hope to do it agian in the next few weeks maybe with Scattman in Gvill G6 or something at the SanFord Bridge I also know I heard AsILayDying talking about a run/trial ride at Dean/university or blanchard park..

hope see evry one soon...

Thanks again for another great event i'm glad that it stayed around long enough for my son to be able to compete he had a blast (once i finally got his up and running:roll F#$& Traxxas link radios

I figured this was a feeler / fun type of comp. And the rules etc. should
have been lax, as they were. Therefore, I feel, there was no fouls "thumbsup"

X2 on that

Honestly all is tension and disagreement over rules is one reason I'm not into comps. I enjoy running with friends and just having fun watching others drive. Some people take this to serious and should remember what it's all about.

Same here thats why probably some of the best times i've ever had were at free comps or gtg's

 

[cameraman]

No problem I have fun taking pics more than running sometimes lol and love when I can make an Rc look like a 1.1

 

[yoda@4x4]

Honestly all is tension and disagreement over rules is one reason I'm not into comps. I enjoy running with friends and just having fun watching others drive. Some people take this to serious and should remember what it's all about FUN.

Same here thats why probably some of the best times i've ever had were at free comps or gtg's

I agree with FREE events BUT even at free events RULE'S need to be applyed so that there is a level playing feild, yes I have had my fun running at free GTG and TTC and G6 events ...
But if I am going to put time and money into my rigs and the go out and run them and do my best to apply to all the rule's as a builder and run by the rules and two or three others are not then its not fun for me to get cheated becuase your there to just have fun then its not fun for me becuase i am there to challange my self as a driver and a competitor for that event that is some of what is trying to be said by many on this forum and has always been a problem with the Florida group of scalers over the years we all as a group can never come together....

Secound note is NEWRED charges becuase they are a business and they make it worth it with a hobbie shop right a your finger tips and bathrooms, concession stand, family environment AND at the end of the event you are awarded for your efforts and time in your rig and driving TOP THREE GET TROPHIES and depending on the event and amount of people prize's... I know last season they gave out close to 1,000.00 dollars in prizes over a few events for the top three in a few classe's....


Point is when this kind of stuff is in place RULES ARE A MUST and with a point series RULE's will have to be applied and enforced to make it fare for every one.....

 

[yoda@4x4]

I decided to revive or actually start up a local club because the local club that had already been created was pretty much dead..

I do have to say this, the FSTR club is not dead and never was the last few events you have been to in orlando and ocala you have had 4 or 5 members at these events. I understand starting or remodling a club FOR FLORIDA.. But as the Club leader you need to lead by example you have 10 people following you and listing and reading your text you have to show a level postive leadership....JMTC

 

[Scattman]

@scattman, i didnt have any touches or rollovers on the coarse, sorry to say!

But how many gates did you touch or just drive over?

I know there are more then a few that DON'T have winches, I myself only have one winch so I would have issues with this being a must. I am by no means complaining just kind of pointing out or discussing some ideas or situations for the upcoming comp year.

This is one reason why having a GTG before hand and discussing the upcoming comp or series is a good idea.

Why exactly....it was listed in the 1st post by Yota exactly what the rules were going to be..................what, you guys can't read or drive?

But as the Club leader you need to lead by example you have 10 people following you and listing and reading your text you have to show a level postive leadership....JMTC

Unless the followers have no intentions other than just bombing around with scalers and patting each other on the back. :ror:


I for one like to test my driving ability as well as the capabilities of my rig. That is the purpose of having competitions you know.;-) And a level playing field is a must for comps, otherwise it is just a GTG.

Just for the record.............I have no issues with someone running a rig that does not meet the required specs. Specs that were posted weeks before the competition. As long as it is understood that they can't finish ahead of someone who did bother to make his/her rig within spec.


Seems like this is the norm for you guys down there......................if you don't want to follow rules, then why in the hell enter competitions?

 

[mud_life_19]

no gate touches either

 

[Scattman]

And AsIlayDying, I know you have multiple rigs...............you can't tell me that a 30 dollar winch is out of reach.

 

[Scattman]

no gate touches either

Then I commend you on a good run "thumbsup"...............just make sure you have your 5 scale items next time.

 

[Scattman]

I just wish someone had some vid of my Jeep drifting around the dirt oval. I am in love with my new powerplant......stupid fast but great crawlability. "thumbsup"

 

[yoda@4x4]

I just wish someone had some vid of my Jeep drifting around the dirt oval. I am in love with my new powerplant......stupid fast but great crawlability. "thumbsup"

X2 i didn't get to see much of it but would love to see some VID

 

[cameraman]

Lol damn who lit the fire under scatt and sorry I went to get the camera to get pics of it drifting but u had quit by the time I came back

We all need to get on the same page there seemed to be at least 20 to 25 rigs show up and that's awesome for those of us that want to compete the rules have been posted fix change build your rig to fit the requirements and come ready to run by the rules to the next comp and those of you that still want to run but more just for fun and the gtg bring what u got and have fun running the courses with the rest but you will be scored by the rules still and start behind the competitors just so that it is fair and gates and runs and what not are not moved or changed

Also those hosting the comps know that the rules are set and must be enforced so if you don't want to have the rules or set up the location to meet the rules step back and let someone else host an event instead

I think a comp can be just as much fun as a gtg just know if your competing or having fun

 

[mud_life_19]

@scattman, i had 5 scale accesories

 

[AsILayDying]

Honestly without getting to deep or heated about this entire topic Ill just say this and be done.

1. This was my first comp be it that it was very laid back and didnt follow the rules to a T, I had fun regardless of a DNF. Yes I have multiple rigs and they are setup for trails and or light crawling. I probably lost more scale items in one run then most even had all together.
2. Yes I can afford 30 dollars on a Winch. Infact I bought 2, one is on my 1.9 and the other is dead as a doornail. Worked only about 2 minutes under load and then stopped. Fried board. I just dont care to much for purchasing another one just for looks. Ill take the time penalty.
3. @Scattman dont take this the wrong way but your replies and attitude is what really pushes myself and alot of others away from comps. Who the F cares if he had a touch or a gate hit, we all had the same course. Yes you attempted to do your best and stay in the gates, congrats to you. The fire lit under your ass cameraman is talking about is because you didnt win. Trying to point out that someone had touches or hits and then when he said he didnt you point out no scale items. Come on...... really, I honestly hope that was all a joke.
4. From this point forward I will drive like there is an actual purpose, better F'in believe I will be there following every single run so I can track every gate and touh and penalty.... just so we can all be fair.
5. Yoda, I have no problem combining the club into yours. The recent activity on the club site was...not recent.LOL Anyways contact those members and see what you can come up with. Im not set in stone and dont mind fitting into a club already formed.
6. As for leading by example. I try my best to be friendly, helpful as well as being competetive. I dont get irritated if I lose, I dont worry about other people's rigs not having "5 Scale Accessories", I will give you the shirt off my back if it means you can run your rig that day. I try very hard to treat people the way I would expect to be treated. Most of the people I run with are a good group of guys and if they were asked I would think they would say I do a pretty good job, but perception is in the eye of the beholder.

 

[Scattman]

:ror::ror::ror::ror:

2. Yes I can afford 30 dollars on a Winch. Infact I bought 2, one is on my 1.9 and the other is dead as a doornail. Worked only about 2 minutes under load and then stopped. Fried board. I just dont care to much for purchasing another one just for looks. Ill take the time penalty.

Whatever floats your boat.............I sure as hell don't have a winch on mine just for looks. ;-) If you show up at one of our scale comps/GTG's w/o one, you are already behind the eight ball.

3. @Scattman dont take this the wrong way but your replies and attitude is what really pushes myself and alot of others away from comps. Who the F cares if he had a touch or a gate hit, we all had the same course. Yes you attempted to do your best and stay in the gates, congrats to you. The fire lit under your ass cameraman is talking about is because you didnt win. Trying to point out that someone had touches or hits and then when he said he didnt you point out no scale items. Come on...... really, I honestly hope that was all a joke.

You obviously don't know me very well at all.....that fire is there no matter if I finish 1st or last and I talk shit all the time. I talked smack at the last ones that I won. My comp buddies have no issues with it, maybe you scale guys have thin skin? ;-):ror:

And as far as my comments to M-life.....Did you not see the that I posted in the reply to him? I am sure he appreciates you stepping up for him though. Nothing like a big sister to have your back. :ror:

4. From this point forward I will drive like there is an actual purpose, better F'in believe I will be there following every single run so I can track every gate and touh and penalty.... just so we can all be fair.

Bout fawkin' time. "thumbsup"

5. Yoda, I have no problem combining the club into yours. The recent activity on the club site was...not recent.LOL Anyways contact those members and see what you can come up with. Im not set in stone and dont mind fitting into a club already formed.

I never did understand the need to start another scale club when there already was one. Why not just post up in the FSTR group thread and keep it going?

6. As for leading by example. I try my best to be friendly, helpful as well as being competetive. I dont get irritated if I lose, I dont worry about other people's rigs not having "5 Scale Accessories", I will give you the shirt off my back if it means you can run your rig that day. I try very hard to treat people the way I would expect to be treated. Most of the people I run with are a good group of guys and if they were asked I would think they would say I do a pretty good job, but perception is in the eye of the beholder.

I have given away, let others borrow, or given advice to more people than you can shake a stick at and I have been in this hobby longer than you are old. ;-) I turned the comm on an arm and built a Checkpoint canned motor just so someone could run on Sunday. Hell, I haul a commercial smoker rig all the way to Alabama to cook for and feed damn near the entire group that shows up at the East Coast Championships.

And just for the record, I absolutely love and thrive on smack talk and wish others would dish some out instead of getting their feelings hurt. If you guys ever make it to a regular comp you would see that. We loves the smack talk. Nothing like trying to clear a gate while your buddies tell you that you suck. :ror::ror::ror::ror:

 

[AsILayDying]

^^^^ lol

 

[zebs toy]

Well sounds like this is NOT a hobby for me.My kids and i got into this for fun and this is getting way out of control. This my be my last post thanks for a good time yota I will stick to running in the parks

 

[mud_life_19]

I am also in this for the fun of it, the trail guys have there own "smack" talk but is more comic relief. I will not get into serious comps because I enjoy the fun and love building and testing and challenging myself to make an obstical or something or challenge someone to make that obstical but that is my challenge or comp style.

@zebs, I see what ur sayin, family events is what I like about rc there is fun runs down trail or whatever but the Orlando group seems to all get along and not have that comp issues so that is y I love runnin with them cause they have fun.