Videographers Pleeaassee help a brother out???

[Donziikid]

Yes, they are compatible, I have no problem using my Sony with my iMac. iMovie and Adobe find the files when connected via USB without any problem.

 

[donhd04]

Yes, they are compatible, I have no problem using my Sony with my iMac. iMovie and Adobe find the files when connected via USB without any problem.

That's cool. I have found imovie to be really easy. Hoping I can make my way to Final Cut Pro later on.

 

[donhd04]

Well I am back at square one with this i think. I have narrowed it down to 4: 2 DSLR's and 2 Camcorders.

Canon 6D DSLR
Canon 7D DSLR
Canon Vixia HF G10
Sony HDR CX560

Im almost looking at doing the DSLR for being able to have both. I know a camcorder is better for out in the field for weight and such but I found some rigs last night online that was really cool and under a hundred bucks. So what ya think?

 

[nmanuel01]

6D is an awesome camera, but you need good glass in front of it. The 7d is good but I read it has a high learning curve. I recently purchased a Sony camcorder with a projector, it's nice but I just bought it for family outings nothing fancy.

If you have the funds a 6D is what I would get but I have a few canon L series lens to pair it up too. Not a cheap route by any means.

Also you don't need multi million dollar tools and rigs it can be done with a dslr, check this out.

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[nmanuel01]

I believe the canon T4i was aimed for movie usage. Go to a good camera store and check them out.

 

[donhd04]

I believe the canon T4i was aimed for movie usage. Go to a good camera store and check them out.

Well I went to my local camera store and i guess since they deal mainly with photography I really didn't get any of a clearer choice or suggestions from them. Hell they only had 3 different camcorders in stock that they carry. So I kinda back at square 1 here. If your were gonna do events like SRRS that MADRAM11 covers and some drag racing events like the hot rod reunion in bowling green and do some RC stuff also, what type would you consider getting? DSLR or Camcorder?

 

[nmanuel01]

I think for your needs a decent camcorder, and a tripod. A small tripod to place the camcorder near the rocks where the RC cars are passing and a regular tripod to film the event.

 

[crash]

I run 3 types of holding fixtures.

Bi-pod, tripod and a cam caddie...

 

[donhd04]

I run 3 types of holding fixtures.

Bi-pod, tripod and a cam caddie...

Cool. I really think im leaning towards this setup.
Canon 6D
Camera Ribbon A Professional Video Camera Shoulder Support Rig
Go Pro HERO 3 Black edition
Iphone 5 with these accessories
- Istabilizer flex tripod iStabilizer Flex
- Istabilizer Monopod iStabilizer Monopod
- Istabilizer Glide Pro (which can be used with camcorders and DSLR's) Glidepro - Products
- Bluetooth Iphone remote (this little thing works awesome. Got it in last night) iPhone Camera Remote
- Iphone camera mountable camera rig and case. Optrix
All of the Istabilizer items are compatible with the GOPRO also.

Most of the I stabilizer items i have ordered from Amazon and got free shipping and paid considerably less for. As much as $10 cheaper than the advertised price on Istabilizer.

Im still not sure on the Canon 6D though. I have to look more into it and get a few more opinions from users like you guys. Thanks in advance though.

 

[Donziikid]

If your were gonna do events like SRRS that MADRAM11 covers and some drag racing events like the hot rod reunion in bowling green and do some RC stuff also, what type would you consider getting? DSLR or Camcorder?

A camcorder, which is manufactured, tested, and made solely for the use of capturing and producing quality video. A DSLR is a photographers tool first, with a side gimmick of having video capabilities. The menus are cumbersome, the focus is slow, the depth of field is shallow (making follow focusing on a 3" screen that much more difficult), autofocus (if the feature even exists) is jittery and noisy due to the AF motors. There are too many things that strike down the DSLR for an amateur videographer. They are great tools for photographers, and great tools for production companies who have a controlled setting with lights, sounds, and makeup to do multiple takes; not an amateur videographer seeking to learn a tool and a trade and get something worthwhile out of it without being sorely disappointed.

Another thing, lenses. Are you going to stop shooting in the middle of an event to change lenses when you need more range on that DSLR? When you do have to change, the action is not going to stop simply so you can change your setup. DSLRs are by no means an "on the fly" video platform; great for studios, terrible for on location. At that, I don't even see any lenses which you have already or plan to purchase. You'll be hard pressed to get anything of quality out of the kit lens equipped with the 6D (24-105mm f/4). Quality lenses will cost you near the cost of your body.

Start with a camcorder. Learn the basics, learn the mechanics, learn how to use the equipment. When you feel like you have gotten where you need to get, upgrade to a new (or a quality used) professional camcorder such as the Canon XA10 or a Sony HXR-NX30 to push those same boundaries again. Jumping in in the middle will do you no good, and I promise you'll feel as though you bought a great DSLR to capture stills, but a poor camera for capturing video.

 

[donhd04]

A camcorder, which is manufactured, tested, and made solely for the use of capturing and producing quality video. A DSLR is a photographers tool first, with a side gimmick of having video capabilities. The menus are cumbersome, the focus is slow, the depth of field is shallow (making follow focusing on a 3" screen that much more difficult), autofocus (if the feature even exists) is jittery and noisy due to the AF motors. There are too many things that strike down the DSLR for an amateur videographer. They are great tools for photographers, and great tools for production companies who have a controlled setting with lights, sounds, and makeup to do multiple takes; not an amateur videographer seeking to learn a tool and a trade and get something worthwhile out of it without being sorely disappointed.

Another thing, lenses. Are you going to stop shooting in the middle of an event to change lenses when you need more range on that DSLR? When you do have to change, the action is not going to stop simply so you can change your setup. DSLRs are by no means an "on the fly" video platform; great for studios, terrible for on location. At that, I don't even see any lenses which you have already or plan to purchase. You'll be hard pressed to get anything of quality out of the kit lens equipped with the 6D (24-105mm f/4). Quality lenses will cost you near the cost of your body.

Start with a camcorder. Learn the basics, learn the mechanics, learn how to use the equipment. When you feel like you have gotten where you need to get, upgrade to a new (or a quality used) professional camcorder such as the Canon XA10 or a Sony HXR-NX30 to push those same boundaries again. Jumping in in the middle will do you no good, and I promise you'll feel as though you bought a great DSLR to capture stills, but a poor camera for capturing video.

See this right here is the reason I asked you guys. There are some points that you mentioned that the camera shop didn't and that I didn't think of either like changing lenses. Thats a great point and Im glad you mentioned it. That really pushes me the other way back towards camcorders. I have narrowed that down to either SONY or CANON and for the features the SONY has alot more functions than the CANON.

 

[donhd04]

Not trying to dispute anyone about anything cause i don't have a clue what Im talking about when it comes to cameras, BUT all the footage that is shot from up on the hill looking down was shot on a CANON 7D on a monopod by 4x4nation. The first one is of the John Deere buggy (ritchie keith) and the second is of Tim Cameron in game changer. Again all the footage looking down towards the bottom of the hill was shot on a CANON 7D mounted on a monopod. I really like the clarity of these videos, they are so freakin clear. Whats yalls opinion? I will say that in Tims video i notice alot of choppyness. I don't know where thats the camera or the operator.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=426051314146756

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=426234010795153

 

[crash]

Not trying to dispute anyone about anything cause i don't have a clue what Im talking about when it comes to cameras, BUT all the footage that is shot from up on the hill looking down was shot on a CANON 7D on a monopod by 4x4nation. The first one is of the John Deere buggy (ritchie keith) and the second is of Tim Cameron in game changer. Again all the footage looking down towards the bottom of the hill was shot on a CANON 7D mounted on a monopod. I really like the clarity of these videos, they are so freakin clear. Whats yalls opinion? I will say that in Tims video i notice alot of choppyness. I don't know where thats the camera or the operator.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=426051314146756

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=426234010795153

Your still stuck with 30fps in 1080i/p with that camera and your still stuck with a big bulky device compared to a good video camera.