wheelbase mesurement rule 6.4

[PEE WEE]

:shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock: "it's so crazy, it just might work" !

I myself feel this rule is OK, not perfect by any means but ok, my rigs are built and ran, (like most of us) and alway's made sure that where my rig is the most stable is where i'm going to make sure that the way i've been tech'd in the past it's not over the standard WB, now i just have to go back to the workbench and spend more time in my garage (that has tv,radio,heater,etc,etc,etc) Oh My castle as i call it and spend time working on rigs and stayin away from naggin kids, frickin mtv,HSN,soaps or what the frick ever is on that i don't wanna hear and in the meantime i'm lowering my BP! IMHO this is one of the reasons why i'm in this sport!
OH yeah and to beat Bcrofts,Rockcad,PeeWee and last but not least The "CHUMP" himself :mrgreen:
Sorry bout all that but had to lower my BP again
Guy's this now brings new life to crawlin and adds more to the level of competition that we all have!
Randy
(now let the flamin begin)
Thanks sococrawler for putting me on the same page as those guys. But I know i'm not there yet.
My opinion built my rig the way 2009 rules were made and now have to do minor mods. I will make it happen but don't agree.

 

[BigB_117]

So is a truck that stretches beyond 12.5 when digging still legal?

The new measuring procedure seems like it will be inconsistent to me. Tempreture, gear mesh, and tech table surface all effect how much my truck rebounds after being compressed.

Also, do I have to smash down till my shocks bottom out? Or can I just push until the body stops compression?

What if the tech table surface or my motors are "holding" my truck longer than it's normal driving wheelbase?

 

[rock hard]

teck with no wheels.=no problem with motors or tires holding the truck.
and according to rule 3.8 stretching out the chassis with dig would be illegal

however,if a judge thinks your out of teck they teck you back at the teck area and same method

so your truck wouldnt be stretched out while being tecked=legal

 

[CRAWLIN 4 FUN]

" Rules are rules so be it " Just be glad they are only lil toy trucks not 1:1

 

[BigB_117]

teck with no wheels.=no problem with motors or tires holding the truck.

Is that allowed? I've never seen it tried. Don't the wheels and tires have to pass tech also?

 

[BigB_117]

teck with no wheels.=no problem with motors or tires holding the truck.
and according to rule 3.8 stretching out the chassis with dig would be illegal

however,if a judge thinks your out of teck they teck you back at the teck area and same method

so your truck wouldnt be stretched out while being tecked=legal

So it sounds like it's still legal, but am I gonna get dragged back to the tech table everytime I use my dig?

 

[Fishmaxx]

teck with no wheels.=no problem with motors or tires holding the truck.

Kinda hard to point the front wheel stright forward if it isn't there :shock:


6.4 - Wheelbase: is measured from center of axle nut to center of axle nut. The vehicle should be set down on a
flat surface by the driver. The front wheel on the side that is being checked, must be pointing straight forward. At
that time, the driver will then push the entire truck down to complete a full compressed suspension. Once full
compression has been made, the driver then releases the truck to return to ride height. After the truck has rebound
to a self supporting ride height, a judge will then measure the wheelbase. If both sides are to be checked, all the
above procedures must be duplicated.

 

[BigB_117]

Fish, can you define full compression?

Is it all the way down till the shocks bottom out? I believe the hood on my body hits the axle and prevents to shocks from bottoming out.

 

[joesbruiser]

Fish, can you define full compression?

Is it all the way down till the shocks bottom out? I believe the hood on my body hits the axle and prevents to shocks from bottoming out.

You have a good question.
I know my body stops the suspension from compressing all the way.
But that is how it will be on course.
This also brings up another thing to discuss.
I know as a fact that without a body my truck rebounds higher than with.So I would think that all trucks should be run through tech with body on.

 

[cascade crawler]

Fish, can you define full compression?

Is it all the way down till the shocks bottom out? I believe the hood on my body hits the axle and prevents to shocks from bottoming out.

i am also interested in this question as mine does the same thing! one at a time they would bottom out but not at the same time due to the way my body sits, Fish can you help us out? and I also would like to thank ALL that were involved in making the new changes, I dont comp as much as most of you guys but it was pretty fustrating not knowing how your rig was going to be teched, now we ALL know how it will be teched, some dont like it but thanks guys great job!!!

 

[BigB_117]

You have a good question.
I know my body stops the suspension from compressing all the way.
But that is how it will be on course.
This also brings up another thing to discuss.
I know as a fact that without a body my truck rebounds higher than with.So I would think that all trucks should be run through tech with body on.

I think most do if the body is mounted low, but if it's not defined how long till someone makes you smash it down till the shocks bottom out at the tech table?

Hmm. Maybe I need to mount my body even lower and loose the cutout in the rear that allows the rear axle to fully compress. :twisted:

 

[Fishmaxx]

Fish, can you define full compression?

Is it all the way down till the shocks bottom out? I believe the hood on my body hits the axle and prevents to shocks from bottoming out.

Lots of things can stop a truck from bottoming out besides shocks, so I wouldn't worry about it. Judge will push the vehicle down until it stops....he is not going look at the truck to see why."thumbsup"

If for some reason the tech guy has a bug up his butt, and wants to bottom it out without the body it should comeback easier :mrgreen:

 

[cascade crawler]

so if the judge wants us to pull the body and re tech we do?

 

[BigB_117]

Lots of things can stop a truck from bottoming out besides shocks, so I wouldn't worry about it. Judge will push the vehicle down until it stops....he is not going look at the truck to see why."thumbsup"

If for some reason the tech guy has a bug up his butt, and wants to bottom it out without the body it should comeback easier :mrgreen:

Ok sounds good. The rules say that the driver does the pushing. I just don't want to be accused of not pushing down hard enough.

 

[joesbruiser]

If for some reason the tech guy has a bug up his butt, and wants to bottom it out without the body it should comeback easier :mrgreen:

Thats correct.Fish change the rule to you have to tech with the body off.

 

[dpdsurf]

Judge will push the vehicle down until it stops....

You mean the driver will push the vehicle...:mrgreen:

 

[jason]

Bottom line to it all is this rule.

2.3.1 - Vehicle wheelbase is limited to a maximum of 12.5 inches.

This is the way it has always been, 2.2 rigs cannot have a wheelbase over 12.5" if your rig goes longer than 12.5" at any point with both axles parallel to the ground you are out of spec.

 

[BigB_117]

Bottom line to it all is this rule.



This is the way it has always been, 2.2 rigs cannot have a wheelbase over 12.5" if your rig goes longer than 12.5" at any point with both axles parallel to the ground you are out of spec.

If that's the case then shouldn't we be measuring at full compression? Most rigs grown when they dig. Even shafty's.

 

[rock hard]

Kinda hard to point the front wheel stright forward if it isn't there :shock:


6.4 - Wheelbase: is measured from center of axle nut to center of axle nut. The vehicle should be set down on a
flat surface by the driver. The front wheel on the side that is being checked, must be pointing straight forward. At
that time, the driver will then push the entire truck down to complete a full compressed suspension. Once full
compression has been made, the driver then releases the truck to return to ride height. After the truck has rebound
to a self supporting ride height, a judge will then measure the wheelbase. If both sides are to be checked, all the
above procedures must be duplicated.

ok,ok just take off the back wheels:mrgreen:

 

[Fishmaxx]

Bottom line to it all is this rule.



This is the way it has always been, 2.2 rigs cannot have a wheelbase over 12.5" if your rig goes longer than 12.5" at any point with both axles parallel to the ground you are out of spec.

Now yall dun opened up a big ol can a whoop arse