Project Guido: Bruiser Crawler (w/1:1 pics now)

[SlinkySam]

Hey Griz, your rig will totally be awesome man. My rig is a fun only rig. It in no way performs like a well designed buggy or trail rig. However, I have a blast in it and go most places that I want to go, so it fit my original build criteria. Also, there is nothing like stupid flex. Just the funniest thing to see and feel while driving. I also drive it on the street around town, but not very far. Nothing like 2 feet of body roll and hydraulic steering to attract the attention of cops

Keep up the awesome work and I hope to see more pics of both Broncos. As SR5 said, if we can only afford those Bruiser axles, a super scale looking rig would be in the works. My TLT-1 Willys is the closest I will get for now.

Anxiously waiting for more pics
-Sam

[Grizzly4x4]

Yup, we all build what makes us happy.

Thanks for the compliments.

[rckjeep]

I hope you are going to ditch the 44 and 9" axles with 39" tires. There's a guy that wheels with us sometimes how's on 38's and he has destroyed so mnay parts. The last time he, busted the gears in his T-case, a front axle, and ripped the track bar mount off the frame. All with in 20 feet of trail. I dig EB's but you need to lighten them up or overbuild the drivetrain

[GeoffSFAs10]

Originally Posted by Grizzly4x4

CTM's? bling? Yes, because they are $185 each 8O But they are strong.
Thanks Geoff

Thats exaclty the point of them being bling.

[SR5Dave]

Originally Posted by rckjeep

I hope you are going to ditch the 44 and 9" axles with 39" tires. There's a guy that wheels with us sometimes how's on 38's and he has destroyed so mnay parts. The last time he, busted the gears in his T-case, a front axle, and ripped the track bar mount off the frame. All with in 20 feet of trail. I dig EB's but you need to lighten them up or overbuild the drivetrain

Wait, he should upgrade his axles so he doesnt break his T-Case and Tear off the track bar mount?

Griz is building a 44 right... He is not just one of those people who doesn't know any better.

[Tuffguy]

Griz with that fullsize bronco and all your other sweet rc's you are officially my hero!
you have got some serious money in that 1:1

[Grizzly4x4]

Originally Posted by rckjeep

I hope you are going to ditch the 44 and 9" axles with 39" tires.

Thanks for the reply rckjeep. I dont know if you noticed by my r/c stuff by I go out of my way to do things different than the mainstream. :P
The D44/9 inch setup is going in there for two reasons, light weight and 'cuz everybody says "that wont work". I am building the axles as
stong as possible. The 9 inch will have 35 spline axles and a detroit. If that breaks I will run 40 spline axles and a spool. If the front warn axles break too often I will switch to the CTM 300M axles. I am trying the warn's first because my friend has a set of the 300M axles in his D60 Bronco and they cost $3000, but if I have to, I will put them in.

Like I said before, I am trying to build a well engineered rig without overbuilding and adding unnecessary weight. In the snow and sand lightweight is key and that is my primary purpose. I imagine it will break occasionally on the rocks but I think overall it will be pretty reliable. The 40" IROK's weigh the same as my old 36" TSL SX's so that should help too.
All the guys I wheel with are excited to see if I can make it werk and think I am doing it right so I dont have to worry about holding anybody up.

Originally Posted by SR5Dave

Griz is building a 44 right... He is not just one of those people who doesn't know any better.

Thanks Dave, and no I didn't just fall off the turnip truck. There is a method to my madness.

Originally Posted by Tuffguy

Griz with that fullsize bronco and all your other sweet rc's you are officially my hero!
you have got some serious money in that 1:1

Thanks Tuffguy, in aint a budget project, that's for sure.

[SR5Dave]

The weight may be the same for the larger tires... but two words:
LEVER ARM

[Grizzly4x4]

Originally Posted by SR5Dave

The weight may be the same for the larger tires... but two words:
LEVER ARM

Right, but in snowbashing, where tire speed is king, rotational mass is a factor as well.

This is an experiment, most people dont want to experiment because they want to spend the money once and be done. I can afford to try this and if it dont werk then RokJok 60's may be next.

[SR5Dave]

Originally Posted by Grizzly4x4

This is an experiment, most people dont want to experiment because they want to spend the money once and be done.

hence my 60! So, back on track.. How is the Bruiser comin along? Does it hurt to know they were modeled after yota axles?

[Grizzly4x4]

No progress on the Bruiser lately :( . Finishing up a crawler for someone and werking on a top secret project for a tech writeup.

Originally Posted by SR5Dave

Does it hurt to know they were modeled after yota axles?

Yes! I was thinking of cutting the housings or running it upside down so that I could get the front diff in the "correct" side. Broncos have the front diff on the drivers side. :(

[SR5Dave]

Originally Posted by Grizzly4x4

Yes! I was thinking of cutting the housings or running it upside down so that I could get the front diff in the "correct" side. Broncos have the front diff on the drivers side. :(

I was wondering if you were going to deal with that.

If you flip it upside down, it'll run backwards. And you'd be on the coast side of the gears? (Does that matter in RCs?)

[SR5Dave]

FYI:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...lipped+housing

[Nomercy]

hey if you dont want those stock bruiser shocks, ill take them off your hands. i really need 4 more. ill pay ya 35 shipped.

[Mnster]

Man your truck looks similar to mine.

[Grizzly4x4]

Well, last night I flipped the front axle upside down to get the pinion on the correct side for a Bronco and swapped the knuckles from side to side. Looks like everything will be fine, definately the way to go.
The pinion is pretty much in the center of the axle (vertically) so there will be no change in driveshaft angle and the gears are straight cut so there is no strength difference in what direction the gears turn.

NoMercy, that’s a fair offer, but until I find another scale looking shock I’m planning on using the stockers. Any ideas?

Mnster, nice rig, I’ve seen the pics of yours before and like it a lot. Yup they look similar now but when I am done with the Body they should look different.

[Ace]

Watcha gonna do to reverse the front drive shaft direction?

Flippin the axle should reverse it's direction right?

[SR5Dave]

Originally Posted by Grizzly4x4

Well, last night I flipped the front axle upside down to get the pinion on the correct side for a Bronco and swapped the knuckles from side to side. Looks like everything will be fine, definately the way to go.
The pinion is pretty much in the center of the axle (vertically) so there will be no change in driveshaft angle and the gears are straight cut so there is no strength difference in what direction the gears turn.

NoMercy, that’s a fair offer, but until I find another scale looking shock I’m planning on using the stockers. Any ideas?

Mnster, nice rig, I’ve seen the pics of yours before and like it a lot. Yup they look similar now but when I am done with the Body they should look different.

Its going to run backwards :P

Flipping the rear upside down would probably be the easiest solution.

[Grizzly4x4]

Originally Posted by SR5Dave

Its going to run backwards :P

I know, I had that covered.

Originally Posted by SR5Dave

Flipping the rear upside down would probably be the easiest solution.

Duh I didn't even think of that. The drivetrain I have planned will be custom anyway so making the front driveshaft spin backwards is not a problem, but flipping the rear axle gives me some other options.
Great thinking Dave.

[Mnster]

TLT shocks are kind of real looking longer travel and stuff. I run my truck shock less you can't really find shocks that look real with that much droop and travel.