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Old 06-25-2008, 02:07 PM   #1
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ok i have streched my ax 10 out about 4 inches total and replaced the front shocks with savage shocks ..... i have a chassis built by a local hobby shop and i cut my ax10 chassis in halve and used it to mount my rear stock shocks straight up to get away from the torq twist... i will try to get some pics up asap...
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Old 06-25-2008, 02:08 PM   #2
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Old 06-25-2008, 02:12 PM   #3
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this is before the stretch!



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Holy crap that body is mounted high. How bout some body off pics so we can see that chassis.
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Old 06-25-2008, 02:52 PM   #5
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sorry but.................
why?
not crawling? and just want something different ?

post up the picks after the stretch .

i see some bashing probably coming
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Old 06-25-2008, 04:09 PM   #6
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well after constatnly ripping the front shock body top off i thought well how about a different setup? i have major front flex and i did the servo winch inboard ... if you pick it up at the center skid the front drops about 5 inches... kinda like a little droop setup and yeah i did the body high so i didnt have to cut the fenders up... i run a jeep tj body or my 98 tamiya beetle body... ill get some picke up soon....

oh and i just ordered the 1 inch extenders for a guy on ebay
http://stores.ebay.com/Nova-RC-Products

so now i guess i just gotta figure out how big i can go with the wheels and tires.... not a comp crawler but will go anywhere............
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Old 06-25-2008, 04:10 PM   #7
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sorry but.................
why?
not crawling? and just want something different ?

post up the picks after the stretch .

i see some bashing probably coming
oh yeah bash all you want like i said before not into comp crawling if i was id cage my xj and go from there
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Old 06-25-2008, 04:12 PM   #8
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I hope its not the same hobby shop that built that chassis you had on before because that chassis looks like a step backwards that the stock axial one..
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Old 06-25-2008, 08:07 PM   #9
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sorry but.................
why?
not crawling? and just want something different ?

post up the picks after the stretch .

i see some bashing probably coming
Where would we be without experimentation, are we to believe that the Bender, Rien, RCP et al chassis just sprung into existence all shiny and new without several kludgie iterations. It seems like today we are so used to going out and purchasing a kit, a bunch of aftermarket parts for that kit and then just bolting it all together and telling everyone I just "built" a killer crawler.

I started building and crawling when you had to do everything from scratch and by hand, Transmissions from one mfg, shocks from another, dirveshafts from another and axels from somewhere else. Links were hand made, chassis was handmade and electronics came from everywhere. Many of the crawlers built that way and posted here "looked like crap", but they worked and we had fun experimenting.

Not everyone is into "comps" I imagine the majority of posters don't compete in actual sanctioned competitions, but use their crawlers in their yard, by their office or somewhere close to home. Who has really "built" a crawler, the guy who purchases a $750.00 roller from RCP, the guy who buys an AX10 kit, an Austin Dunn chassis, crawler store parts and bolts it all up, or the guy with the magnum transmission, traxxas shocks, revo driveshafts, wheely king axels, arrow shaft links, rooster and lathe motor and a couple of aluminum plates hacksawed and drilled to shape.

I have "built" over 10 crawlers, I don't post pictures because there are too many people ready to point out my mistakes in geometry, ride height, shock placement ans poor chassis finish. All 10 of them work excellently in that they perform exactly as they are supposed to. The scale rigs look and work like scale, the 2.2s will go exactly where I work them.

I don't feel that I'm any better than anyone else because I handmade my rigs, nor do I feel that anyone else is better than me because they didn't. I like to encourage people to experiment, that's where innovation comes from.

After all, doesn't a stick chassis look like "crap"
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Old 06-25-2008, 08:25 PM   #10
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Thank You Warthog!!

You have a total of seven posts here, and speak more intelligently and unconventionally than probably 70% of the posters here. I came along after most of the originators, but I try my best to stick to hand built and out of the norm. With so much talk about "I can't wait until manufacturer's start making this or that part," it is always refreshing to read that experimenters are still out there.

Thanks!
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Old 06-25-2008, 08:32 PM   #11
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Where would we be without experimentation, are we to believe that the Bender, Rien, RCP et al chassis just sprung into existence all shiny and new without several kludgie iterations. It seems like today we are so used to going out and purchasing a kit, a bunch of aftermarket parts for that kit and then just bolting it all together and telling everyone I just "built" a killer crawler.

I started building and crawling when you had to do everything from scratch and by hand, Transmissions from one mfg, shocks from another, dirveshafts from another and axels from somewhere else. Links were hand made, chassis was handmade and electronics came from everywhere. Many of the crawlers built that way and posted here "looked like crap", but they worked and we had fun experimenting.

Not everyone is into "comps" I imagine the majority of posters don't compete in actual sanctioned competitions, but use their crawlers in their yard, by their office or somewhere close to home. Who has really "built" a crawler, the guy who purchases a $750.00 roller from RCP, the guy who buys an AX10 kit, an Austin Dunn chassis, crawler store parts and bolts it all up, or the guy with the magnum transmission, traxxas shocks, revo driveshafts, wheely king axels, arrow shaft links, rooster and lathe motor and a couple of aluminum plates hacksawed and drilled to shape.

I have "built" over 10 crawlers, I don't post pictures because there are too many people ready to point out my mistakes in geometry, ride height, shock placement ans poor chassis finish. All 10 of them work excellently in that they perform exactly as they are supposed to. The scale rigs look and work like scale, the 2.2s will go exactly where I work them.

I don't feel that I'm any better than anyone else because I handmade my rigs, nor do I feel that anyone else is better than me because they didn't. I like to encourage people to experiment, that's where innovation comes from.

After all, doesn't a stick chassis look like "crap"

Well said!
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Old 06-26-2008, 07:35 AM   #12
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hey WARTHOG thats what im talking about..........

it started as a ax10 kit but as of now its the tranny, battery tray, axles, and rear shocks left...... if i had my way it would only be the axles.

the drive shafts are traxxas and the rear is a total of four pieces . the front is three pieces.

made my rear links with aluminum rod ( drilled and tapped)
used the losi rod ends (they was bigger and cheaper)

well i could talk about it all day but i guess a picture is worth 1000 words so wait until i go to lunch and ill snap some pics of it with the beater tj body



oh yea WARTHOG
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Where would we be without experimentation, are we to believe that the Bender, Rien, RCP et al chassis just sprung into existence all shiny and new without several kludgie iterations. It seems like today we are so used to going out and purchasing a kit, a bunch of aftermarket parts for that kit and then just bolting it all together and telling everyone I just "built" a killer crawler.

I started building and crawling when you had to do everything from scratch and by hand, Transmissions from one mfg, shocks from another, dirveshafts from another and axels from somewhere else. Links were hand made, chassis was handmade and electronics came from everywhere. Many of the crawlers built that way and posted here "looked like crap", but they worked and we had fun experimenting.

Not everyone is into "comps" I imagine the majority of posters don't compete in actual sanctioned competitions, but use their crawlers in their yard, by their office or somewhere close to home. Who has really "built" a crawler, the guy who purchases a $750.00 roller from RCP, the guy who buys an AX10 kit, an Austin Dunn chassis, crawler store parts and bolts it all up, or the guy with the magnum transmission, traxxas shocks, revo driveshafts, wheely king axels, arrow shaft links, rooster and lathe motor and a couple of aluminum plates hacksawed and drilled to shape.

I have "built" over 10 crawlers, I don't post pictures because there are too many people ready to point out my mistakes in geometry, ride height, shock placement ans poor chassis finish. All 10 of them work excellently in that they perform exactly as they are supposed to. The scale rigs look and work like scale, the 2.2s will go exactly where I work them.

I don't feel that I'm any better than anyone else because I handmade my rigs, nor do I feel that anyone else is better than me because they didn't. I like to encourage people to experiment, that's where innovation comes from.

After all, doesn't a stick chassis look like "crap"

I agree with you completely. I have made a couple from hand as well. I just bought an AX10 ARTR and it almost feels like I'm cheating. Especially after all the work I put into my tubers.....before actually building them. I had to laugh on the arrow links comment. You so pegged my first attempt at building a crawler. You wanna talk about ugly, but it worked and worked well. Thanks for your comments.
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Old 06-26-2008, 09:13 AM   #14
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stretch pics!!!!!!!!!!












thousand words???
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Old 06-26-2008, 09:21 AM   #15
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I don't compete either, it's all about having fun with the crawler for me. I tried stretching mine out, and in the end I did not like it. 2.2 tires are only so big, and when you bring the truck out so far you end up getting high centered over large obstacles that you can make with a smaller wheelbased truck. I've gone from 15" down to 12" now. I like 12" the most for a 2.2...but it all comes down to personal preference.
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Old 06-26-2008, 09:43 AM   #16
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desolas i know what your saying ... with the front being longer shocks than the springs it will droop like five inches ...ill take a pic of it drooping granted its not a weighted droop just the weight of the axle and the ones in the rims , its enough to pull it over the belly part ..... i also bent the links in the front and rear to be inline with the drive shaft (1. for protection 2. for clearance) that way it doesnt have a big flat side under it ill get a side shot at ride height to....
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Old 06-26-2008, 12:06 PM   #18
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kool choped xj show us some pics of that.
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Old 06-26-2008, 12:12 PM   #19
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Nice any video of it yet? I am still working on getting stuff for mine toy.
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Old 06-26-2008, 12:15 PM   #20
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Nice any video of it yet? I am still working on getting stuff for mine toy.
hey get yours up to .... i got some phone vids of my 7yr old using the bug body
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