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jim_w · 01-19-2009, 06:31 PM

Ordered a Axial RTR RockRacer today. This will be my absolute first experience with a crawler. I've heard that the supplied ESC is not very good. I have a Mamba Max and a Sidewinder ESC on hand now. Can someone tell me what motor to get to replace the 27 turn stock motor? I have a MM4600kv and a MM5700kv. I have a Velineon 3500kv also. Would any one of these be suitable, or should I get a high turn brushed motor?

(I did try searching for these answers BTW..so forgive me if I've created a redundant thread!)

Awaiting a shipment!!,

Jim

Benzbuildr · 01-19-2009, 06:43 PM

Most of us run a 55t or a 45t. Both are good Rock Crawlin motors. The 45t gives you more wheel speed. Hope this helps.

jim_w · 01-19-2009, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benzbuildr

Most of us run a 55t or a 45t. Both are good Rock Crawlin motors. The 45t gives you more wheel speed. Hope this helps.

Any particular brand?

Thanks,

Jim

Syd · 01-19-2009, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jim_w

Any particular brand?

Thanks,

Jim

Novak 55t or Integy 55 or 45 also I think theyu got a 35T to?

the3kid · 01-21-2009, 05:59 AM

Depends on what you want to do....I've got an integy 55t with 19 tooth pinion on stock spur and it goes about a good walking pace. Lower turn is going to run faster....If you want speed. You can try the VXL motor with sidewinder esc, but I don't think it's going to do good at crawling because the motor control isn't made for crawling. I'd personally run the sidewinder and 45t if I had the chance to do it again. Check PM

GrumpyLumpy · 01-21-2009, 08:43 AM

It's not that the stock ESC is "Bad", per say, but it lacks a drag brake. That was the biggest flaw for me......or so I thought.

After installing a Rooster ECS, the difference was night and day. Not only did I now have drag brake, but the throttle sensitivity was better, and my control of it was improved and easier. I also use a Traxxis TQ3 over the stock transmitter... oh wait.....I didn't have a choice, cause my stock transmitter took a crap 24 hours after bring it home.....

Regardless, the TQ3 gave me another channel and more sensitivity overall. I also had it as a spare from my T-Maxx 4908.

I run a 55t Novak motor. They (motor/ECS) were bought as a package. I also have a 55t Axial motor and the difference in smoothness from the Axial to the Novak is noticable as well, favoring the Novak. Quieter too, despite multiple gear mesh setting changes.

Hope this helps, Jim.

robsdak · 01-21-2009, 10:44 AM

Novak Rooster Combo is the way to go. i paid $99 for it. worth the money.

jim_w · 01-21-2009, 07:17 PM

Thanks for all the input

. I guess I'll use a Sidewinder ESC and pick up a Integy 45 or 55t motor.....

This is pretty bad

...I haven't received it yet, and I'm upgrading!!

Jim

emidyl · 01-23-2009, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robsdak

Novak Rooster Combo is the way to go. i paid $99 for it. worth the money.

x2 on that. Or at least get the motor. It should be fine with either MM or Sidewinder. The motor is smooth with enough wheelspeed if needed.
The Integy lathe motors I heard are good but never tried.

mockknight · 01-23-2009, 08:54 AM

I would just get a cheap 45T integy. It will cost you 20$ max and you will be quite happy w/ the torque and wheelspeed.

Timmahh · 01-23-2009, 09:08 AM

the Sidewinder or Mamba would be great. the 27 t motor isnt all that bad. drop the 14T pinion on the motor and your speed and slow control will increase.

but a 35-55t motor will slow you down even more.

keep in mind you DO occasionally want/need some wheel speed. So if you go with TOO MANY TURNs on a motor you may not have the wheel speed when you need it.

i would say a 55T will likely give you a good mix of both.
just do your rig, and our hobby a favor and dont use Integy Crap.

shaggy · 01-23-2009, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmahh

just do your rig, and our hobby a favor and dont use Integy Crap.

I run a sidewinder and an integy 45 turn. Works great put im changing over to either 9.6 or 8.4 volts for more wheel speed.Whats wrong with integy?

grimgard · 01-23-2009, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jim_w

Ordered a Axial RTR RockRacer today. This will be my absolute first experience with a crawler. I've heard that the supplied ESC is not very good. I have a Mamba Max and a Sidewinder ESC on hand now. Can someone tell me what motor to get to replace the 27 turn stock motor? I have a MM4600kv and a MM5700kv. I have a Velineon 3500kv also. Would any one of these be suitable, or should I get a high turn brushed motor?

(I did try searching for these answers BTW..so forgive me if I've created a redundant thread!)

Awaiting a shipment!!,

Jim

Novak Rooster ESC 55T Motor Combo FTW! Also get the aluminum links with the required hardware upgrade kit. Super soft springs up front. Losi rock claws with cut foams. You will thanks me for the heads up on what to get.

I also got the RTR AX10 and after many upgrades it can crawl with the best.

bigskycrawlin · 01-23-2009, 01:14 PM

I run the Sidewinder/Integy 45t combo and its great good wheel speed and torque when ya need it.

Creepy Inc. · 01-23-2009, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigskycrawlin

I run the Sidewinder/Integy 45t combo and its great good wheel speed and torque when ya need it.

I use a 65t with the tekin FXR and a 3 cell lipo, and use a 16 tooth pin with 87 tooth spur. Great torque, and whell speed.
You must learn to crawl before you walk.

jim_w · 01-24-2009, 08:22 AM

I'm going with my MM ESC, and I picked up a 45T Integy yesterday. I'm searching for ESC setup specs this morning!

Thanks to all who have responded. Great bunch of folks on this forum!

Jim in Alabama

cadiman22 · 01-24-2009, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonka

I use a 65t with the tekin FXR and a 3 cell lipo, and use a 16 tooth pin with 87 tooth spur. Great torque, and whell speed.
You must learn to crawl before you walk.

I also use the Tekin FXR and love it. Got it on sale with the Tekin 55t motor. With 8 cell 2/3 sadle pack to power it, have great crawl speed and enough wheel speed when i need it. love the easy programing of the FX-R

the kil · 01-24-2009, 02:05 PM

x10 on the fxr and 55 turn on 8 2/3 cell that set up works

JOOTZ · 01-24-2009, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonka

I use a 65t with the tekin FXR and a 3 cell lipo, and use a 16 tooth pin with 87 tooth spur. Great torque, and whell speed.
You must learn to crawl before you walk.

this set-up will make the axial a "rockracer" ??? reason i ask is im looking to build a rockracer and its gonna be based off the axial due to aftermarket support.

jim_w · 01-25-2009, 08:54 AM

update.......MM ESC, Integy 45T, locked front diff, optional included small pinion..completely different animal now

!! I like the slower speed and 4WD

..articulation seems restricted by the stiff springs tho....:-(

Jim

01-19-2009, 06:31 PM	#1
jim_w Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 124	RTR AX10 RockRacer Noob Ordered a Axial RTR RockRacer today. This will be my absolute first experience with a crawler. I've heard that the supplied ESC is not very good. I have a Mamba Max and a Sidewinder ESC on hand now. Can someone tell me what motor to get to replace the 27 turn stock motor? I have a MM4600kv and a MM5700kv. I have a Velineon 3500kv also. Would any one of these be suitable, or should I get a high turn brushed motor? (I did try searching for these answers BTW..so forgive me if I've created a redundant thread!) Awaiting a shipment!!, Jim

01-21-2009, 07:17 PM	#8
jim_w Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 124	Thanks for all the input. I guess I'll use a Sidewinder ESC and pick up a Integy 45 or 55t motor..... This is pretty bad ...I haven't received it yet, and I'm upgrading!! Jim

01-25-2009, 08:54 AM	#20
jim_w Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 124	update.......MM ESC, Integy 45T, locked front diff, optional included small pinion..completely different animal now!! I like the slower speed and 4WD..articulation seems restricted by the stiff springs tho....:-( Jim

01-19-2009, 06:43 PM	#2
Benzbuildr RCC Addict Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Mccalla,Al Posts: 1,195	Most of us run a 55t or a 45t. Both are good Rock Crawlin motors. The 45t gives you more wheel speed. Hope this helps.

01-21-2009, 05:59 AM	#5
the3kid Quarry Creeper Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Suburbs Posts: 406	Depends on what you want to do....I've got an integy 55t with 19 tooth pinion on stock spur and it goes about a good walking pace. Lower turn is going to run faster....If you want speed. You can try the VXL motor with sidewinder esc, but I don't think it's going to do good at crawling because the motor control isn't made for crawling. I'd personally run the sidewinder and 45t if I had the chance to do it again. Check PM

01-21-2009, 08:43 AM	#6
GrumpyLumpy Newbie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Allentown Posts: 32	It's not that the stock ESC is "Bad", per say, but it lacks a drag brake. That was the biggest flaw for me......or so I thought. After installing a Rooster ECS, the difference was night and day. Not only did I now have drag brake, but the throttle sensitivity was better, and my control of it was improved and easier. I also use a Traxxis TQ3 over the stock transmitter... oh wait.....I didn't have a choice, cause my stock transmitter took a crap 24 hours after bring it home..... Regardless, the TQ3 gave me another channel and more sensitivity overall. I also had it as a spare from my T-Maxx 4908. I run a 55t Novak motor. They (motor/ECS) were bought as a package. I also have a 55t Axial motor and the difference in smoothness from the Axial to the Novak is noticable as well, favoring the Novak. Quieter too, despite multiple gear mesh setting changes. Hope this helps, Jim.

01-21-2009, 10:44 AM	#7
robsdak Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Crestview Posts: 166	Novak Rooster Combo is the way to go. i paid $99 for it. worth the money.

01-23-2009, 08:54 AM	#10
mockknight Pebble Pounder Join Date: May 2008 Location: Bellevue Posts: 182	I would just get a cheap 45T integy. It will cost you 20$ max and you will be quite happy w/ the torque and wheelspeed.

01-23-2009, 09:08 AM	#11
Timmahh RCC Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Mudville Posts: 1,592	the Sidewinder or Mamba would be great. the 27 t motor isnt all that bad. drop the 14T pinion on the motor and your speed and slow control will increase. but a 35-55t motor will slow you down even more. keep in mind you DO occasionally want/need some wheel speed. So if you go with TOO MANY TURNs on a motor you may not have the wheel speed when you need it. i would say a 55T will likely give you a good mix of both. just do your rig, and our hobby a favor and dont use Integy Crap.

01-23-2009, 01:14 PM	#14
bigskycrawlin Newbie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: BFM Posts: 29	I run the Sidewinder/Integy 45t combo and its great good wheel speed and torque when ya need it.

01-24-2009, 08:22 AM	#16
jim_w Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 124	I'm going with my MM ESC, and I picked up a 45T Integy yesterday. I'm searching for ESC setup specs this morning! Thanks to all who have responded. Great bunch of folks on this forum! Jim in Alabama

01-24-2009, 02:05 PM	#18
the kil Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Vacaville Posts: 249	x10 on the fxr and 55 turn on 8 2/3 cell that set up works

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