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brilamb2 · 10-01-2009, 08:44 PM

has anyone ever tried to flip the shocks over so the weight is lower b/c the fluid would be lower? just wondering if it would make a difference.

NeXt559 · 10-01-2009, 08:51 PM

lots of people mount shocks upside down.

everly little bit helps when it comes to lowering your cg

xirtic · 10-01-2009, 08:55 PM

I do this on every comp rig that I run/build.

rockerrc · 10-01-2009, 09:12 PM

I've done this also... works great less oil leakage too.

SDheavymetal · 10-01-2009, 09:22 PM

I'm running the Losi shocks upside down. It works great.

oldhippie · 10-01-2009, 09:43 PM

I think it should be how they come. Keeps them from leaking so bad too.

Meatwad · 10-01-2009, 09:44 PM

Yep stock rtc shocks upside down here. Also have noticed they seem to leak less

Reflection · 10-01-2009, 09:47 PM

Has anyone compared the weight of a shock shaft to the weight of the oil inside the body?

Seriously....

rmdesignworks · 10-01-2009, 10:03 PM

the only problem is when you flip a shock over it limits the shocks ability to dampen to load,,the air in the shock collects at the shaft seal and the piston is more often forced to pass air instead of fluid,,keeping the shock up-right means the piston is always in fluid....$0.02

rugerboy · 10-01-2009, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmdesignworks

the only problem is when you flip a shock over it limits the shocks ability to dampen to load,,the air in the shock collects at the shaft seal and the piston is more often forced to pass air instead of fluid,,keeping the shock up-right means the piston is always in fluid....$0.02

I agree but what difference does it really make? It's not like your worried about the piston caveatting or aerifying the fluid..... the stroke is so slow I don't see the harm.

NeXt559 · 10-02-2009, 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reflection

Has anyone compared the weight of a shock shaft to the weight of the oil inside the body?

Seriously....

hmm thats actually a good question
but shouldnt the weight of the shock body filled w/ oil be compared to the shock shaft?

in this case im guessing the weight of the body and oil should weight more than the shaft

Offroader5 · 10-02-2009, 12:09 PM

Another reason for runnning shocks upside down is for clearance. Depending on the chassis, width of the chassis, and different axles...sometimes turning over the shock keeps you from having to use spacers to space the shock body away to clear the chassis.

The air issue can be solved by bleeding your shocks right. If after filling a shock and compressing the shaft...the shaft then starts to extend by itself, you have air trapped inside. Usually it's air above the bladder if it's a top cap shock. Sometimes I pull out the bladders anyway.

mkinnett1 · 10-02-2009, 03:32 PM

I run with my losi's upright and they do pretty good however my buddy runs his upside down. He said it helped him so I'm thinking about turning mine upside down and seeing what happens.

irok · 10-03-2009, 02:49 AM

some shocks don't cycle quite as smooth and predictable when mounted upside down,but i run my fronts upside down for clearance issues also.

Sicario666 · 10-03-2009, 08:49 AM

most of everything that comes to crawling is based on personal preference...if you like it,then it works.just play with the settings...

if you're into comps then i would guess you would need to be a lil more serious about cg

lwb Sami · 10-03-2009, 07:52 PM

Shocks on 1to1s are upside down( body down). They only work this way, flipping them causes them to lose their dampening abilitys. Also a shock that is straight up and down will always dampen better then one at a angle.

Offroader5 · 10-03-2009, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by lwb Sami

Shocks on 1to1s are upside down( body down). They only work this way, flipping them causes them to lose their dampening abilitys.

Although there are manufacturers that tell you to mount them in a specific orientation...there are plenty of 1:1 shocks on the market that mount with the body up. There are also those that can mount either way.

RPP Jim · 10-03-2009, 08:51 PM

I too run my 4" Losi's upside down. Like others have said, anything that lowers the CG of the truck helps.

irok · 10-08-2009, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Offroader5

Although there are manufacturers that tell you to mount them in a specific orientation...there are plenty of 1:1 shocks on the market that mount with the body up. There are also those that can mount either way.

yep,i run all my 1:1 shox with the body up,that's the way they are designed to run,and it helps with unsprung weight.

10-01-2009, 08:44 PM	#1
brilamb2 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: flint Posts: 31	Upside down shocks? has anyone ever tried to flip the shocks over so the weight is lower b/c the fluid would be lower? just wondering if it would make a difference.

10-03-2009, 08:49 AM	#15
Sicario666 Pebble Pounder Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: San Jo Posts: 113	most of everything that comes to crawling is based on personal preference...if you like it,then it works.just play with the settings...if you're into comps then i would guess you would need to be a lil more serious about cg

10-01-2009, 08:51 PM	#2
NeXt559 RCC Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Fresno Posts: 1,464	lots of people mount shocks upside down. everly little bit helps when it comes to lowering your cg

10-01-2009, 08:55 PM	#3
xirtic RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mount Juliet Posts: 1,287	I do this on every comp rig that I run/build.

10-01-2009, 09:12 PM	#4
rockerrc Rock Crawler Join Date: May 2009 Location: Idaho Falls, ID. Posts: 539	I've done this also... works great less oil leakage too.

10-01-2009, 09:22 PM	#5
SDheavymetal RCC Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,144	I'm running the Losi shocks upside down. It works great.

10-01-2009, 09:43 PM	#6
oldhippie I wanna be Dave Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: 20 miles southeeast of downtown Sacramento Posts: 2,373	I think it should be how they come. Keeps them from leaking so bad too.

10-01-2009, 09:44 PM	#7
Meatwad I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Rancho Relaxo. California. USA. Earth. Posts: 3,292	Yep stock rtc shocks upside down here. Also have noticed they seem to leak less

10-01-2009, 09:47 PM	#8
Reflection TEAM MODERATOR Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tennessee Posts: 10,855	Has anyone compared the weight of a shock shaft to the weight of the oil inside the body? Seriously....

10-01-2009, 10:03 PM	#9
rmdesignworks I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: ...the burning end of the rope. Posts: 5,013	the only problem is when you flip a shock over it limits the shocks ability to dampen to load,,the air in the shock collects at the shaft seal and the piston is more often forced to pass air instead of fluid,,keeping the shock up-right means the piston is always in fluid....$0.02

10-02-2009, 12:09 PM	#12
Offroader5 Picky Fab'r/Acetal Junky Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Arizona Desert/AJ Posts: 3,073	Another reason for runnning shocks upside down is for clearance. Depending on the chassis, width of the chassis, and different axles...sometimes turning over the shock keeps you from having to use spacers to space the shock body away to clear the chassis. The air issue can be solved by bleeding your shocks right. If after filling a shock and compressing the shaft...the shaft then starts to extend by itself, you have air trapped inside. Usually it's air above the bladder if it's a top cap shock. Sometimes I pull out the bladders anyway.

10-02-2009, 03:32 PM	#13
mkinnett1 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Winchester, Ohio Posts: 45	I run with my losi's upright and they do pretty good however my buddy runs his upside down. He said it helped him so I'm thinking about turning mine upside down and seeing what happens.

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10-03-2009, 02:49 AM	#14
irok Rock Crawler Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: B.C.Canada Posts: 608	some shocks don't cycle quite as smooth and predictable when mounted upside down,but i run my fronts upside down for clearance issues also.

10-03-2009, 07:52 PM	#16
lwb Sami Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Divide, CO Posts: 299	Shocks on 1to1s are upside down( body down). They only work this way, flipping them causes them to lose their dampening abilitys. Also a shock that is straight up and down will always dampen better then one at a angle.

10-03-2009, 08:51 PM	#18
RPP Jim Gold Star Baby! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Ukiah Posts: 223	I too run my 4" Losi's upside down. Like others have said, anything that lowers the CG of the truck helps.

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