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Entropy98 · 02-11-2010, 05:09 PM

I am just getting into the addiction of RC. If you had about $200 to spend what upgrades are going to make the biggest difference. I am not looking to comp anytime in the next year and a half but do want a capable rig.

What I have right now is:
Tekin FXR 45 T combo
Serve with 200 oz torque
Stock Tx/Rx
4 link rear with 3.5 oz/3 link front with 7 oz
HB rovers
Inboard lower links
Limited stock shocks ¼”

What I am looking at upgrading:
Axial or Losi Shocks
C Hub carrier (does it matter what type?)
High steer knuckles (does it matter what type?)
Rear lockout (do you need to upgrade the shafts?)
SWX chassis (willing to take recommendations on different chassis)
TX/RX the new DX3E or DX3S (want 3 channels for dig in the future) willing to take other recommendations

Any suggestions are welcome.

Rumhead · 02-11-2010, 05:24 PM

I started in to crawling the same way you did. I made an axial rtr rock racer into a pretty capable comp rig. Aside from the mods you've already made, I noticed a big difference with the battery/servo plate for the front axle. I also use red wheely king springs in the front and the grey axial ones in back. When you're ready for dig a cheap radio is the spectrum dx3 modded with a 3 pos. switch. Its easy to do and there is a thread on here telling you exactly how to do it. Hope this helps.

Tortuga275 · 02-11-2010, 06:36 PM

I would get a KO Propo EX-5UR from RPP Hobbies. Its about 180$ and you get a three channel radio with 5 position third channel, and it comes with two recievers

Entropy98 · 02-11-2010, 07:12 PM

I do plan on moving my battery to the front axle just have not done it yet.

I really would appreciate as much feedback as possible from as many of you as possible. I am new to this hobby and rely heavily on the responces that I get from here. I don't know anyone personnaly that I can call and bounce questions off of.

Thanks again,

sierrajim · 02-11-2010, 08:07 PM

What I am looking at upgrading:
Axial or Losi Shocks - Axial comp shocks or Traxxas big bores work well

C Hub carrier (does it matter what type?) - make sure you get something clockable to correct castor. I think mind are RCP
High steer knuckles (does it matter what type?)

Rear lockout (do you need to upgrade the shafts?) you shouldn't have to, though you can buy straight axles that will give you more strength.

When you move your battery to the axle you can also move your servo off to one side. This allows you to run a longer drag link between the servo and the knuckle. It also means you can lay the servo on an angle against the diff tube placing it loser to the ground by just under 1/2 inch.

yfz350 · 02-11-2010, 08:28 PM

i like the vanquish chassie and dig the chassie is only 60 and dig is 84

i also like the axail comp shocks they are spendy but worth it

Gardetto · 02-11-2010, 08:41 PM

CDW chassis and links

Entropy98 · 02-11-2010, 10:02 PM

I like the vanquish chassis seems to have a higher level of adjustability for the links.

Can you use the aluminum link that I have on the vanquish chassis?

Entropy98 · 02-12-2010, 02:35 PM

Any and all feedback is appriciated. From what I am hearing chassis and springs are going to be the best option? pro and cons of different chassis would also be helpful

Duuuuuuuude · 02-12-2010, 08:23 PM

I would definately get the 4 link for the rear and battery tray for the front. RPP has the LDRacing BTA/battery tray for $18.

Skip the rear lockouts for now, I've been running stock plastic ones for a year now with no issues.

A chassis is not a bad step, but not essential just yet. You can do pretty good with the stock one.

Either the Losi or Axial, or even Traxxas big bores will be a great improvement over the stock shocks. The Losi's come with springs that work really well.

chino925 · 02-12-2010, 08:40 PM

rear under drive or front over drive diffs. probibly the cheapest most effective upgrade iv e done to the ax10 gets rid of alot of torque twist

Entropy98 · 02-12-2010, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chino925

rear under drive or front over drive diffs. probibly the cheapest most effective upgrade iv e done to the ax10 gets rid of alot of torque twist

I have seen this but could someone explain?

Rear is already 4 linked and reduced the torque twist quite a bit.

If I were to get the vanquish chassis could I use the links that I have when it comes to length?

Is there really that big of a difference btwn the knuckles and C hubs when it comes to manufacturers?

Duuuuuuuude · 02-12-2010, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Entropy98

I have seen this but could someone explain?

Rear is already 4 linked and reduced the torque twist quite a bit.

If I were to get the vanquish chassis could I use the links that I have when it comes to length?

Is there really that big of a difference btwn the knuckles and C hubs when it comes to manufacturers?

Underdrive in the rear or overdrive in the front will make the front wheels turn slightly faster than the rear, which greatly helps climbing and turning.

As far as knuckles go, I've got an Axial set and a STRC set and have no issues with either. They're about the same as far as I'm concerned.

Duuuuuuuude · 02-12-2010, 11:04 PM

lol...I just noticed that your rig looks exactly like mine when I got it...

ARTR chassis with the Rock Racer lid...

Entropy98 · 02-12-2010, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duuuuuuuude

Underdrive in the rear or overdrive in the front will make the front wheels turn slightly faster than the rear, which greatly helps climbing and turning.

As far as knuckles go, I've got an Axial set and a STRC set and have no issues with either. They're about the same as far as I'm concerned.

How would you accomplish this. Is it the tranny or the axles that need to be modified?

Can I use the same links with a new chassis?

Duuuuuuuude · 02-12-2010, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Entropy98

How would you accomplish this. Is it the tranny or the axles that need to be modified?

Can I use the same links with a new chassis?

You get new gears for the axle. Only do one though...both is kinda excessive.

Not sure about the links. Easy to make though...good time to learn.

Entropy98 · 02-12-2010, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duuuuuuuude

You get new gears for the axle. Only do one though...both is kinda excessive.

Not sure about the links. Easy to make though...good time to learn.

Are there any links that will point me in the right direction?

DUUUUUUUUUDE thanks for you help. I need direction and this has been very helpful.

Duuuuuuuude · 02-12-2010, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Entropy98

Are there any links that will point me in the right direction?

DUUUUUUUUUDE thanks for you help. I need direction and this has been very helpful.

Do a search for the chassis you want and see what others are using.

Entropy98 · 02-12-2010, 11:19 PM

BTW I dig your concept build. If I had the tools I would love to follow along.

Entropy98 · 02-12-2010, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duuuuuuuude

I would definately get the 4 link for the rear and battery tray for the front. RPP has the LDRacing BTA/battery tray for $18.

Does this BTA work with any of the knuckles out there or does it have to be specific?

02-11-2010, 05:09 PM	#1
Entropy98 Rock Stacker Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Salt Lake Posts: 89	Help with upgrades I am just getting into the addiction of RC. If you had about $200 to spend what upgrades are going to make the biggest difference. I am not looking to comp anytime in the next year and a half but do want a capable rig. What I have right now is: Tekin FXR 45 T combo Serve with 200 oz torque Stock Tx/Rx 4 link rear with 3.5 oz/3 link front with 7 oz HB rovers Inboard lower links Limited stock shocks ¼” What I am looking at upgrading: Axial or Losi Shocks C Hub carrier (does it matter what type?) High steer knuckles (does it matter what type?) Rear lockout (do you need to upgrade the shafts?) SWX chassis (willing to take recommendations on different chassis) TX/RX the new DX3E or DX3S (want 3 channels for dig in the future) willing to take other recommendations Any suggestions are welcome.

02-12-2010, 11:04 PM	#14
Duuuuuuuude Suck it up! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Arkansas Posts: 11,652	lol...I just noticed that your rig looks exactly like mine when I got it... ARTR chassis with the Rock Racer lid... Last edited by Duuuuuuuude; 02-12-2010 at 11:06 PM.

02-11-2010, 05:24 PM	#2
Rumhead Newbie Join Date: May 2008 Location: Scottdale Posts: 33	I started in to crawling the same way you did. I made an axial rtr rock racer into a pretty capable comp rig. Aside from the mods you've already made, I noticed a big difference with the battery/servo plate for the front axle. I also use red wheely king springs in the front and the grey axial ones in back. When you're ready for dig a cheap radio is the spectrum dx3 modded with a 3 pos. switch. Its easy to do and there is a thread on here telling you exactly how to do it. Hope this helps.

02-11-2010, 06:36 PM	#3
Tortuga275 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Ukiah Posts: 280	I would get a KO Propo EX-5UR from RPP Hobbies. Its about 180$ and you get a three channel radio with 5 position third channel, and it comes with two recievers

02-11-2010, 07:12 PM	#4
Entropy98 Rock Stacker Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Salt Lake Posts: 89	I do plan on moving my battery to the front axle just have not done it yet. I really would appreciate as much feedback as possible from as many of you as possible. I am new to this hobby and rely heavily on the responces that I get from here. I don't know anyone personnaly that I can call and bounce questions off of. Thanks again,

02-11-2010, 08:07 PM	#5
sierrajim Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 276	What I am looking at upgrading: Axial or Losi Shocks - Axial comp shocks or Traxxas big bores work well C Hub carrier (does it matter what type?) - make sure you get something clockable to correct castor. I think mind are RCP High steer knuckles (does it matter what type?) Rear lockout (do you need to upgrade the shafts?) you shouldn't have to, though you can buy straight axles that will give you more strength. When you move your battery to the axle you can also move your servo off to one side. This allows you to run a longer drag link between the servo and the knuckle. It also means you can lay the servo on an angle against the diff tube placing it loser to the ground by just under 1/2 inch.

02-11-2010, 08:28 PM	#6
yfz350 Pebble Pounder Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: oregon Posts: 127	i like the vanquish chassie and dig the chassie is only 60 and dig is 84 i also like the axail comp shocks they are spendy but worth it

02-11-2010, 08:41 PM	#7
Gardetto Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: East Bay Posts: 350	CDW chassis and links

02-11-2010, 10:02 PM	#8
Entropy98 Rock Stacker Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Salt Lake Posts: 89	I like the vanquish chassis seems to have a higher level of adjustability for the links. Can you use the aluminum link that I have on the vanquish chassis?

02-12-2010, 02:35 PM	#9
Entropy98 Rock Stacker Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Salt Lake Posts: 89	Any and all feedback is appriciated. From what I am hearing chassis and springs are going to be the best option? pro and cons of different chassis would also be helpful

02-12-2010, 08:23 PM	#10
Duuuuuuuude Suck it up! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Arkansas Posts: 11,652	I would definately get the 4 link for the rear and battery tray for the front. RPP has the LDRacing BTA/battery tray for $18. Skip the rear lockouts for now, I've been running stock plastic ones for a year now with no issues. A chassis is not a bad step, but not essential just yet. You can do pretty good with the stock one. Either the Losi or Axial, or even Traxxas big bores will be a great improvement over the stock shocks. The Losi's come with springs that work really well.

02-12-2010, 08:40 PM	#11
chino925 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: armpitts, CA Posts: 210	rear under drive or front over drive diffs. probibly the cheapest most effective upgrade iv e done to the ax10 gets rid of alot of torque twist

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02-12-2010, 11:19 PM	#19
Entropy98 Rock Stacker Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Salt Lake Posts: 89	BTW I dig your concept build. If I had the tools I would love to follow along.

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