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MaxxCrawler02 · 04-15-2010, 10:13 PM

Hey guys, i have an ax10 with the xtrail chassis and the MIP shafts. I noticed that i kepts twisting off the output shaft on the transmission and having to replace them. Then i saw that there is alot of binding when i try to turn the wheels, but when i push down on the Rig and then push it around it rolls just fine, it only for some reason has a bind when the shocks arent supressed down. any thoughts as to what could be causing this. i have looked at the mip shafts to see if any pins maybe have moved out of place or something but everything was fine. i took the transmission apart and everything is great there. anyone have any thoughts why it would roll just fine when i push down on it and when i let up and roll it there is alot of binding for some reason. thanks for your help!

RIG_RIDER · 04-15-2010, 10:50 PM

Post up a picture of what your describing.

R/CMaxximus5.0 · 04-15-2010, 10:59 PM

sounds like your pinion angle could be out of whack, and causing the binding problems, possibly. Thats my guess.

towjockeyrc10 · 04-16-2010, 01:57 AM

is the truck in full droop? the ax10 shocks are way to long for the x-trail chassis unless they are in a droop (sprung too pull the shock together not push out) if they are not then it could be that the angle is just so extreme that it just cant bend that far and something gotta give the next softest part to give is the out put on the trans. robinson racing makes a solid one piece gear i believe not totally sure but they do have something way better than stock. without a pic i dont know nothing just throwing that out there cause i have seen pics of people trying to do that before.

MaxxCrawler02 · 04-16-2010, 08:45 AM

what it is is that the angle is to steep for the MIP shafts so there is some binding going on. i bought the little tcs package to put the springs inside the shocks and it is sitting lower. i guess i need to go even lower? i will post pictures when i get home today to show the problem.

here is a stupid picture, but the lines show the mip shafts and about what there doing. hopefully that expalins what im having problems with.

MaxxCrawler02 · 04-16-2010, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by towjockeyrc10

is the truck in full droop? the ax10 shocks are way to long for the x-trail chassis unless they are in a droop (sprung too pull the shock together not push out) if they are not then it could be that the angle is just so extreme that it just cant bend that far and something gotta give the next softest part to give is the out put on the trans. robinson racing makes a solid one piece gear i believe not totally sure but they do have something way better than stock. without a pic i dont know nothing just throwing that out there cause i have seen pics of people trying to do that before.

your absolutely correct on your statement, that is indeed exactly whats going on. should i just go with some smaller 90mm shocks? i am using he stock shocks but i bought the kit from tcscrawlers that puts springs inside the shocks...

MaxxCrawler02 · 04-16-2010, 07:46 PM

So what should i do to make it to where the shafts line up better?

seems as though i have fixed my issue

Greatscott · 04-16-2010, 11:48 PM

The X-Trail is made for a droop setup. The only other fix it to make brackets to mount your shocks higher. You can try getting shorter shocks, but you might have to experiment with them to figure out the best setup.

towjockeyrc10 · 04-18-2010, 11:43 PM

ok when you put the springs inside the shocks they go between the bottom of the shock and the piston to pull the shock to make it want to stay short. if it is put together by the instructions on tcs's web site you should not have any problems at all i run that same frame and have no problems except it is a little on the weak side (it is soft and very easy to bend not only side to side but in the valley where the skid plate bolts up) other than that it performs very well for what it is. i have found however it is a lot more user friendly with a 1.9 wheel and tire and awesome with a 1.55 steel wheel and like a mud slinger sized tire are you trying to run like the stock 2.2s on it?

04-15-2010, 10:13 PM	#1
MaxxCrawler02 Pebble Pounder Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mt. Enterprise Posts: 153	ax10 problems Hey guys, i have an ax10 with the xtrail chassis and the MIP shafts. I noticed that i kepts twisting off the output shaft on the transmission and having to replace them. Then i saw that there is alot of binding when i try to turn the wheels, but when i push down on the Rig and then push it around it rolls just fine, it only for some reason has a bind when the shocks arent supressed down. any thoughts as to what could be causing this. i have looked at the mip shafts to see if any pins maybe have moved out of place or something but everything was fine. i took the transmission apart and everything is great there. anyone have any thoughts why it would roll just fine when i push down on it and when i let up and roll it there is alot of binding for some reason. thanks for your help!

04-16-2010, 07:46 PM	#7
MaxxCrawler02 Pebble Pounder Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mt. Enterprise Posts: 153	So what should i do to make it to where the shafts line up better? seems as though i have fixed my issue Last edited by MaxxCrawler02; 04-16-2010 at 09:08 PM.

04-15-2010, 10:50 PM	#2
RIG_RIDER Rock Crawler Join Date: May 2009 Location: Medford, Oregon Posts: 692	Post up a picture of what your describing.

04-15-2010, 10:59 PM	#3
R/CMaxximus5.0 Rock Crawler Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: 920 Valley of the Fox Posts: 768	sounds like your pinion angle could be out of whack, and causing the binding problems, possibly. Thats my guess.

04-16-2010, 01:57 AM	#4
towjockeyrc10 Pebble Pounder Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: lake saint louis Posts: 127	is the truck in full droop? the ax10 shocks are way to long for the x-trail chassis unless they are in a droop (sprung too pull the shock together not push out) if they are not then it could be that the angle is just so extreme that it just cant bend that far and something gotta give the next softest part to give is the out put on the trans. robinson racing makes a solid one piece gear i believe not totally sure but they do have something way better than stock. without a pic i dont know nothing just throwing that out there cause i have seen pics of people trying to do that before.

04-16-2010, 08:45 AM	#5
MaxxCrawler02 Pebble Pounder Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mt. Enterprise Posts: 153	what it is is that the angle is to steep for the MIP shafts so there is some binding going on. i bought the little tcs package to put the springs inside the shocks and it is sitting lower. i guess i need to go even lower? i will post pictures when i get home today to show the problem. here is a stupid picture, but the lines show the mip shafts and about what there doing. hopefully that expalins what im having problems with.

04-16-2010, 11:48 PM	#8
Greatscott I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North Idaho Posts: 3,648	The X-Trail is made for a droop setup. The only other fix it to make brackets to mount your shocks higher. You can try getting shorter shocks, but you might have to experiment with them to figure out the best setup.

04-18-2010, 11:43 PM	#9
towjockeyrc10 Pebble Pounder Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: lake saint louis Posts: 127	ok when you put the springs inside the shocks they go between the bottom of the shock and the piston to pull the shock to make it want to stay short. if it is put together by the instructions on tcs's web site you should not have any problems at all i run that same frame and have no problems except it is a little on the weak side (it is soft and very easy to bend not only side to side but in the valley where the skid plate bolts up) other than that it performs very well for what it is. i have found however it is a lot more user friendly with a 1.9 wheel and tire and awesome with a 1.55 steel wheel and like a mud slinger sized tire are you trying to run like the stock 2.2s on it?

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