Weird axle shaft problems

[KC_JoNeS]

If my stubs were slightly clearanced, I would have no issue at all.

Duuuuuuude....unfortunately, I dumped all my plastic crap...ie...knuckles, Cs, lower links, etc. I know...bad move. Otherwise, I would try to assemble fully stock.
It looks, as has been stated, that a small amount of meat may need to be removed from the toob end to allow a bit more room for the bearing. This should do it.

EDIT: actually, with VP zero ackermann knuckles, this still will not do the trick.

Casey

[Highlucks]

Hey guys, I am having issues with mine also. But bear in mind mine are the first edition that did not have the mounting holes drilled and tapped. So I may have drilled them slightly off centre.

Here is my situation.

VP zero Aker Knuckles, Super 300's, Axial clockable C's.

One side mounts up fine with no slop and free movement. The other I can get one knuckle screw in but there is no way of threading in the other.

I have tried to mount up everything without the beef tubes installed and that went flawlessly. So i am nearly sure the fault is in the tubes.

[gunnar]

Originally Posted by highlucks

Hey guys, I am having issues with mine also. But bear in mind mine are the first edition that did not have the mounting holes drilled and tapped. So I may have drilled them slightly off centre.

Here is my situation.

VP zero Aker Knuckles, Super 300's, Axial clockable C's.

One side mounts up fine with no slop and free movement. The other I can get one knuckle screw in but there is no way of threading in the other.

I have tried to mount up everything without the beef tubes installed and that went flawlessly. So i am nearly sure the fault is in the tubes.

I'm trying to help, but you keep adding more and more information with every post.

Remove the the tube that is at fault. Bolt the C on the tube wthout the plastic housing over it, tighten the bolts evenly and gently so you don't bend the walls of the C, you want to just hold the C onto the tube, make sure the C is centered on the tube, then install the knuckle with the Super 300's and bearing on the C. The C will flop around a small amount when installing, but try to keep it straight with the tube. The bearing should be sitting against the tube, and should be centered. If the bearing is cocked, not touching the tube evenly, or if anything does not look even, then at least one of the holes you drilled and tapped is off. If everything looks good, and you try to steer the knuckle and you get binding, then the tube might need to be turned on the end, or the bearing will have to slide closer to the CVD joint. But remeber, everything has to stay as centered as possible while steering the knuckle.

[Highlucks]

thanks man I will try that in the morning

[KC_JoNeS]

Originally Posted by highlucks

thanks man I will try that in the morning

Camo, seeing as how you must use the C as the guide for the drill and tap, the only reasonable explanation is that while drilling, the toob must have moved slightly. I just dont see how you could drill and tap it and then the screw not line up.

My easy suggestion would be to just rotate it 90 degrees, and drill and tap it again.

If you cant get this set to work, PM me and I will get you sorted.

Casey

[KC_JoNeS]

So, I did some investgative work this morning...and came up with some interresting information. So, I am not having problems because of the length of the toobs. In fact, my toob seat is in the same position as the plastic bearing seat. Here is the situation.....

I have VP zero ackermann knuckles. These knuckles have a different placement of the inner large bearing than other knuckles. I mean, the inner bearing for the knuckle which the stub rides in is closer to the Cs with the VP knuckles (zero ackermann). I have verified this swapping to 3Racing knuckles, for which I had no binding.

Here is what is happening....if you install your zero ackermann knuckles on your Cs with just the stock plastic housing, the screws have some play, allowing the C to slightly move as it is needed. But, if you screw into the metal of the toobs, there is no play, and the C cannot move out to accomodate the tight fit, and the inner shaft binds against the stub. I have 3 sets of zero ackermann knuckles, and I have verified this with each set.

I need to feed this info back to VP.

Casey

[Duuuuuuuude]

Woohoo I was right! What do I win?

[KC_JoNeS]

Originally Posted by Duuuuuuuude

Woohoo I was right! What do I win?

[Dr. Evil] "One million dollars!" [/Dr. Evil]

[motorman]

Originally Posted by KC_JoNeS

Camo, seeing as how you must use the C as the guide for the drill and tap, the only reasonable explanation is that while drilling, the toob must have moved slightly. I just dont see how you could drill and tap it and then the screw not line up.

My easy suggestion would be to just rotate it 90 degrees, and drill and tap it again.

If you cant get this set to work, PM me and I will get you sorted.

Casey

Better yet, After you drill one hole, tap it, put the screw in and leave it in then do the other side.

[Duuuuuuuude]

Originally Posted by KC_JoNeS

[Dr. Evil] "One million dollars!" [/Dr. Evil]

Sweet. A check will be fine, so, whenever...