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01-13-2011, 09:52 AM | #1 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Elk Grove
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Moderator, feel free to move if this is in the wrong place. I have a big package! Ok, let me explain what I mean. My motor hangs out the side of my chassis by a fair amount, I have read the post about fitting a tranny into this chassis and saw the suggestions on trimming the motor plate. In my case its not the motor plate ad much as it is the motor, trimming the plate wouldn't do much. On running a 45t integument lathe motor until I step up to a handwound. Here's the question, would the side panels I made be considered legal? I had to make a cut out on the motor side panel to clear the motor, the alternative would be to use standoffs which would look like poo but also cause a potential hang up point on the rocks. I thought about CA gluing in a "hump" to make the panel one solid piece, although it technically is one solid piece as is. The rules state that side panels must be one solid piece that is structurally seperate from the chassis, can someone give me some advice? I haven't seen anyone else running into this issue, is the integument can just larger or are others drivers just dealing with the bulge? I'm trying to make panels that fit as flat as possible without any unsightly gaps if possible. Thanks for the looonnnggggg read, Daniel |
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01-13-2011, 09:58 AM | #2 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Scumrise, Flooriduh
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Panels are not legal as shown, and leave the motor hanging unprotected. I would use a curved piece and cover the motor |
01-13-2011, 10:00 AM | #3 |
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01-13-2011, 10:00 AM | #4 |
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I had an idea, Juan has templates for the chassis that show sideplates for the small sides of the cab, these would cover the rear cutouts on the cab portion, I have only seen one other rig running these panels. The rules don't state where the side panels have to be located at I'm regards to the "sides", would this work? I'm in no way trying to skirt the rules, I could have a flying rig and I would still get my butt handed to me. I just want to play with my toys and don't want to be shut out by a judge that says I'm not legal.
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01-13-2011, 10:03 AM | #5 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Scumrise, Flooriduh
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I guess tecnically it is 'legal' at least 1" tall at one point and 2.5" long at on point, that look covered, unsure about the hole in the middle though, no longer a solid piece. I'd just deal with the bulge and protect your motor. |
01-13-2011, 10:10 AM | #6 |
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I think I've read every fatsback build on here over the last 3 days and I don't think I've ever seen a motor hang that far out... I'm with dickyt though, curved panel may not look as good, but it will be legal and help protect your motor. |
01-13-2011, 10:12 AM | #7 |
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Make a panel that bulges around the motor. BTW, there is an extensive thread cover this topic... though it did kinda go into random talk and lots of interpretation... it definitely will address what you are asking. just look for "solid panels" EDIT: here you go... Gas, Liquid, or Solid? |
01-13-2011, 10:59 AM | #8 | |
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01-13-2011, 11:04 AM | #9 |
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You can form lexan with a heat gun That being said I never had issues with mine and the bulge and when I sold it to Irok22s the panels were pretty thrashed looking. |
01-13-2011, 11:20 AM | #10 |
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Does anyone have the side panels drawing btw? I'd like to make my own here.
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01-13-2011, 11:24 AM | #11 | |
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I might still have it. PM me your e-mail address and I'll take a look through my external drive. edit: confirmed, I do have it, shoot me your e-mail address in PM Bogdan! Last edited by DickyT; 01-13-2011 at 11:31 AM. | |
01-13-2011, 06:30 PM | #12 |
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You don't have to "form" the lexan around the motor. When you attach it, it will naturally bend around the motor. You WANT something covering your motor. I wouldn't try to sidestep the regs to get your motor hanging out the side. On mine, both sides body panels are mirror images. The one over the motor just doesn't overlap the chassis as much at the top and bottom. |
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01-13-2011, 09:25 PM | #14 |
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That looks link a spot to catch and hang up on rocks. Function over Form bud |
01-13-2011, 09:27 PM | #15 |
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I have an idea that might get your motor back inside your rig a bit and get you back to the good. How bout dropping a bunch of teeth in the spur and then dropping a bunch in the pinion as well. This should put you in a position of having to wedge the motor back up against the tranny more. You will definitely have to take a dremel to the motor plate at that point.
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01-13-2011, 09:34 PM | #16 |
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[QUOTE=brian3323;2859616]That looks link a spot to catch and hang up on rocks. Function over Form bud[/QUouldn't I agree, that'd part of the reason I cut the bottom of the panels off just short of the skid, I'll run it and see how she works. The fiberglass idea has me intrigued, custom formed and strong, maybe do it with carbon cloth. What thinkness lexan should I look for if I go a different route? |
01-13-2011, 10:04 PM | #17 | |
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I was going to ask what pinion you are running as well. On mine I trimmed my motor plate and the bulg is barely noticable. If you have gone to a larger pinion, that may be the source of your problem. | |
01-14-2011, 08:52 AM | #18 |
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I actually dropped down a size on my pinion recently, I like wheelspeed so I tend to run a larger pinion. I'll drop it down and see if I can get it to tuck in a little better. The bulge isn't noticeable able as it currently stands, that's because of the spacers I used under the panels. As far as the gap catching of rocks, I don't see it being much different than the gap you would have on a bodied rig. With the size of the sedonas, it narrows down the gap between the tires, hopefully it won't pose an issue.
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01-14-2011, 09:09 AM | #19 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Lady Lake, Fl
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Here is how i did my side panels. On the motor side, i trimmed the motor plate even with the motor. Hardly any bulge at all. |
01-14-2011, 09:13 AM | #20 | |
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Interested in seeing what you decide on...good luck | |
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