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Old 02-09-2011, 11:03 AM   #1
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Default XR universals in AX10 axles...

Anyone tried it out yet?

Been out of crawling for about a year now but still have lots of ax10 parts lieingaround. Im thinking if you shorten and weld the xr10 axles back you can get as short as you want.

So... Anyone?

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Egressor? idk how to spell it but look around in the last couple pages... it's his sportsman rig.
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Old 02-09-2011, 11:54 AM   #3
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EGRESSorīs sportsman

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Old 02-11-2011, 05:10 PM   #4
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i done this mod, but keep snapping the welds on the axles. I am going to slip a piece of brake line tubing over it to give more material to weld to. never thought i would justify using a $800 220v mig on an r/c ever...
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why weld? just cut and grind.
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Old 02-12-2011, 10:40 PM   #6
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why weld? just cut and grind.
Do that and mate it to Egressor's spool
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brake line that i had left over from sleeving links worked perfect.

the only down side, your bearing is there to stay, so keep the welding blanket over it and make sure its a clean spinner before trapping it forever.
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Old 02-25-2011, 06:39 PM   #8
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Do the XR10 universals work with the ax10 knucles and c hubs??
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Old 02-26-2011, 07:18 AM   #9
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havent tried that, doubtful tho, they stick out past the axle a bit more. good thing tho, the bearings are the same size, no need to buy different ones unless you want to freshen up the build while youre at it.
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Old 02-26-2011, 07:32 AM   #10
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You don't need to weld, just cut and grind. I have found that welding on them makes them brittle.
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and you don't generate heat from cutting and grinding them down? plus its hard to add metal back without welding.... just sayin'
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and you don't generate heat from cutting and grinding them down? plus its hard to add metal back without welding.... just sayin'
Not as much as welding, I broke the shafts that I welded on instantly, the ones I didn't weld on are still holding up. If you do it right, you don't need to add any metal, I'm using the Iron Cross lockers too.
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I'm using the fast lane machining lockers. don't care for the pinion size setscrews in them. they don't stay tight at all. i actually cut down a stock axial end link slug and used it for the screw location by the gear. thinking about going with egressor's lockers. much beefier. i wound up using stock dogbone ends cause the xr's were not as big at the ends. kinda wish i had steel lockers and just weld them all in completely!

after testing the setup out now, i like how it works, the right side is holding up but the left had to be beefed up quite a bit. probably since the right side has less traction from torque twist. can't wait to get it on some rocks.
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Has any one tried this with ax10 hubs and or knuckles? I already got alumni stuff and don't want to have to buy all new parts
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Has any one tried this with ax10 hubs and or knuckles? I already got alumni stuff and don't want to have to buy all new parts
I looked at making that happen, It won't work, the C's don't have enough clearance for the universals.
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Bumping this thread. Searching has only turned up a couple results. Seems everyone I found was switching the shafts/ C's/ knuckles all together.

Can you use AX10 C's and knuckles if you clearance them to fit the larger XR universals in? I'm assuming they are not that much larger than the stock dog bones.

Anyone know the outside diameter of the XR u-joints?

Does the XR shafts have the same pivot point location as the AX10 dog bones or will there be binding issues?
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Bumping this thread. Searching has only turned up a couple results. Seems everyone I found was switching the shafts/ C's/ knuckles all together.

Can you use AX10 C's and knuckles if you clearance them to fit the larger XR universals in? I'm assuming they are not that much larger than the stock dog bones.

Anyone know the outside diameter of the XR u-joints?

Does the XR shafts have the same pivot point location as the AX10 dog bones or will there be binding issues?
Its not the diameter that doesn't allow you to use the XR10 universals, its the length of the universal joint compared to the AX10 dogbone and stub axle
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I can't believe I just found this thread. I recently finished this same conversion on my new class 3 scaler. No upgraded aluminum parts just what I had laying around and some random pieces here and there.

I used the Gunnar Beef Toobs to allow me to move the chubs .250" further out. This made it east to grind the flats, while still keeping enough engagement. The chubs and knuckles are upside down. This placed the drag link in a better spot for me, since it is now out front. I tried behind the axle steering, but my pan hard bar was in the way. So, I did a traditional steering set up. Pretty easy mod once you work out a few bugs.

Here are pics in mock up. I am still waiting for my Ti links to arrive.

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