02-20-2011, 07:26 PM | #1 |
Newbie Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: west monroe
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Hey guys not real happy with Axial attention to detail on the RTC truck.I was out crawling around today and my front drive shaft slipped off. I am pretty sure there was not locktite on the set screw and the set screw could not have been tighten.Also my pinion gear setscew hole stripped out and the pinion came off yesterday again I saw no sign of locktite on that setscrew..I mean my whole purpose to get the RTC was not to have to go back behide and finish the job.
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02-20-2011, 07:32 PM | #2 | |
RCC Addict Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: San Francisco
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As for the set screw stripping, try putting a regular screw there if its by the transmission, I did it and it makes life so much easier | |
02-20-2011, 07:35 PM | #3 |
Rock Stacker Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: glendale
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Rtc doesn't mean trail ready even when I did my axial from. Kit my drive shaft slipped off until I upgraded to the mip shafts and axial pinions flat out suck hate to say it but they do
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02-20-2011, 08:01 PM | #4 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Mtz
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| As posted above, these truck are not perfect from the manufacture. They are meant to give you a great starting point, and as you drive them, you can upgrade as needed. My stock driveshafts and even my integy driveshafts constantly fell off. Now that i have the mip driveshafts, no problems at all. From what I found, it didn't matter if the driveshaft screws had locktight or not, they would always find a way to fall apart. Just the more reason to upgrade.
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02-20-2011, 08:34 PM | #5 |
Suck it up! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Arkansas
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There isn't an assembled kit out there that you shouldn't go through and double check things. They are made by people after all... If you want a no muss, no fuss rig that you don't have to think about or wrench on, go to walmart. |
02-20-2011, 10:35 PM | #6 | |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: N. California
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02-20-2011, 11:16 PM | #7 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Corruptifornia
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| While SOME of the above comments are vaild....Axial and the other mfrs really need to watch the QUALITY CONTROL. IMO it's unacceptable to have the loose tolerances in the transmission and stripped out screw holes! The car I drive and the plane that carries us from place to place don't fall apart, so how hard is it to properly train assembly line people and to use proper tolerances during molding and machining...not that hard... Last edited by Natedog; 02-20-2011 at 11:18 PM. |
02-20-2011, 11:28 PM | #8 | |
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02-20-2011, 11:32 PM | #9 | |
Suck it up! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Arkansas
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You need a better analogy. | |
02-21-2011, 01:49 AM | #10 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: NW Washington
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You have a long road ahead of you filled with alot of broken parts. When you do upgrade to metal driveshafts then you will brake outdrives. Then you will tear your tranny apart and fix that. Then youll strip a tranny gear and tear the tranny apart again. Then youll upgrade the servo and bent your stock plastic link. Then so on and so on. Yes, the RTC sucks. It is very limited out of the box. My advice to you: Replace every single part untill the only thing left stock is the plastic axle cases and the plastic trany case. Alot of guys end up there, the only thing I have that is stock on my rig is the plastic axle cases. Good luck in your crawling, It is frustrating dealing with the RTC and its poor quality electronics and plastic componets. |
02-21-2011, 02:03 AM | #11 | |
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02-21-2011, 04:10 AM | #12 | |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Ukraine
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In any case it is a driver's concern to check the car before a drive. Do I check my dirt bike before i hit the trail, ha? This is a hobby, so you gwt what you pay for. Want an improvement - DIY. The best way to have the screws tightened. I do not blame any of mfctrs. Axial forgot to put the wheel wrench in my rtc but they gladly shipped it to the hole i live in. They are kind, and all this misshaps are a part of the live. So, no matter, what you drive. The only matter is HOW you drive. | |
02-21-2011, 05:15 AM | #13 |
Croakin' across the pond! Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Nottingham, UK
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You've got to remember guys that a lot of people find this site AFTER they've bought an RTC and it's let them down. The RTC comes with a promise on the box art of something that works. I bought an RTC and before I took it out I read the manual front to back. I checked the tightness of most things (I have a heli background) buy where the manual says that loktite is to be applied, I didn't go try to break the seal just to prove that it was built right. Sure enough, first day on the rocks, the set screw on one of the shafts falls out - 5 minutes in - end of playtime - on a Sunday, in the middle of nowhere. This is not a good introduction to the brand. I went home, stripped the full machine down, learned a lot and put it back together again - properly. Yes, I'm down to axle cases and tranny cases plus the original wheels and not a lot else and it didn't take long to get there. Two big points though (1) Would I have have spent $1000 off the bat just to get started? No, it wouldn't have happened. (2) Am I happy that I did start, even though I'm now in for the strong money? - You bet!!! Should I have bought the XR10 - different question. Do I think that the spend would have stopped after the first incarnation - no way (8mm bearing for 9mm is just a teenty weeny example of that). Drive it, trash it, read the site, get it right! |
02-21-2011, 01:28 PM | #14 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Ukraine
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Can't disagree with you Dasher, but i have to mention, that all the crawlers on the market, except those, you assemble totally by yourself have issues. So, this is not a big deal. I've screwed the drive shaft up in first 5 mins of run. I put it back and it is still there until now, notwithstanding how badly i bash the rig. I would say it is not an issue at all. Because you get ready to run version and this is always a compromise. You have to agree, that buying a complete mid range bike is a totally different thing if you assemble it by yourself. Like you can install 2 pcs cranks instead of those isis or octalink crap and you still have a mid range bike, so you will not jump too much of your budget. Yep, you will overspend money, but you will be sure that those xt cranks would be better then ruktion or any other truvativ stuff. |
02-21-2011, 02:04 PM | #15 |
Croakin' across the pond! Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Nottingham, UK
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Oh I agree, my Principia Road Bike borders on Pornographic with FRM crankset and axle, Chris King headsets, USE kit and Italian wheels - and Dura Ace shifting - all for under $2500 by buy carefully and building myself. Still wouldn't expect a Giant's predal to fall off and rollinto the canyon never to be found again on the first ride though - and thats what happens with those bloody set screws! Did you get the FB out this weekend - really really wet here in England on Saturday, so went kayaking instead yesterday as the water has filled the rivers! Waiting for my Frogger to arrive - gonna kill the postman soon! Now they're all sold I wonder whether they've become the new unattainalbe FastBack!! |
02-21-2011, 03:02 PM | #16 | |
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i work at a hobby shop and have to deal with this stuff everyday lol......the majority of people dont understand the whole idea of marketable price points and what it takes to get their.....i do see the side of the trucks should come built as close to perfect as possible,but unfortuanetly mass production usually dosent happen that way unless you are transporting people or expensive things...say lavi,such is life....and as far as the fb's go....the cads and such havent been trashed as far as i know and when chud can produce them again he most likely will....keep your eyes open...its not in the works right now to start making them again, but not an impossible idea.... Last edited by flapjack; 02-21-2011 at 03:09 PM. | |
02-21-2011, 05:45 PM | #17 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Henderson/Las Vegas, NV
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oh my god, the truck you bought off off a shelf, already assembled, because you lack the ability/desire to build my own isnt perfect. get the fawk over it, you're in the wrong hobby. where were these people 4-5yrs ago? when building a crawler took a month of collecting parts from 5 different RC trucks and hours of work... |
02-21-2011, 06:09 PM | #18 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Grand Rapids
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hey, if parts aint flyin you aint tryin. it just means your driving it right and not babying it once you do a few upgrades youll be fine |
02-21-2011, 09:03 PM | #19 | |
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02-21-2011, 09:22 PM | #20 |
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At the price point at which it sells, it really doesn't. Try putting a full sportsman crawler together for the same price or less, its no easy chore if at all possible. Is it a comp rig? Probably not. But can it compete against others of its ilk, i.e. RTR rigs? Sure. Same thing we've seen for years in the racing world and probably why the Stock Slash took off like it did, because everyone brought the same "stock", sorta sucky, vehicle without mods and just raced them. |
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