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11-28-2009, 09:05 AM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Hudson
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|  My SCX10 just arrived this morning ! Question ...
I have the money for a Hand Brothers steering kit but is it worth it? What are the benefits? If it's justified to get one I'd like to put it on as I'm putting the kit together instead of going back and redoing things later on. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, RIZ  Last edited by riz; 11-28-2009 at 09:07 AM. |
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11-28-2009, 09:31 AM
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| Built, not bought   Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Gresham
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In my opinion,it's worth it.Top notch design and machining. Great thought on doing it once (as you build). |
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11-28-2009, 09:36 AM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bowling Green KY
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I would go ahead and get it. Adds a scale look, and its an excellent product. |
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11-28-2009, 10:11 AM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Fresno
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awsome product and in my opinion a scx10 isnt a scaler w/o it. im really surprised that axial didnt release the sxc10 chassis w/ frame mounted steering. |
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11-28-2009, 11:58 AM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Hudson
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Sounds good but what are the benefits other than looking more realistic? RIZ |
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11-28-2009, 01:00 PM
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11-30-2009, 08:01 PM
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you can do it yourself with just a piece of aluminum a drill and the provided hardware on the kit... it will take you like 15 minutes... but if you have the money to spend... then go ahead, you will be spending the money just for looks.. cuz you can make a functional one for just $5.00..
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11-30-2009, 08:06 PM
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11-30-2009, 08:17 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Yeaaa +1 on the pics 4 the custom mount!
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12-09-2009, 06:21 PM
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12-09-2009, 06:51 PM
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Here is a nice write up from another member on how to do it yourself: po' man 3 link conversion for front | |
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12-09-2009, 06:52 PM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tyler, TX
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While functional I will stick with the HBros kit. One nice thing is the HB kit elminates bump steer. I also think with it that mine articulates better than stock. |
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12-09-2009, 07:16 PM
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12-10-2009, 09:38 AM
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I fall under the category of believing it doesn't add any benefits besides looks. Yes it does look more scale by taking a servo off the axle but I can really see how it would make your wheels turn any better. To be fair though I have never tried it on my own truck.
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12-10-2009, 01:46 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: HOBBY HQ
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my thoughts on the hb kit is its not worth it i have one on my tracker and didnt think about one for my honcho its kool the way it looks but thats it imo |
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12-10-2009, 06:53 PM
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12-10-2009, 07:21 PM
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Real simple, LOL. Bump steer happens when the distance from the center of the servo horn to the steering knuckle that the drag link is attached to changes with suspension movement. This distance cannot change when the servo is mounted to the axle. Your "perceived" bump steer with the stock setup does not exist. Basically the axle has to move separately from the servo to have any sort of bump steer at all. Please explain to me how suspension movement can affect the steering, because that is what bump steer is, when the servo is mounted to the axle. I'll save you some time... it can't. If mounting the steering servo on the chassis provides any sort of performance improvement over the stock servo on axle setup, why do you suppose that no one runs a chassis mounted servo on a competition rig.  Sometimes poor suspension geometry will fail to keep the axle perpendicular to the chassis during articulation. I believe that this is known as axle steer, but the stock SCX-10 suspension geometry doesn't really have this problem either. The Hand Brothers kit does look good though, and is a lot more realistic than having the servo on the axle as stated previously in this thread. Last edited by toybuilder; 12-10-2009 at 09:04 PM. | |
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12-10-2009, 07:27 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: sittin in the sky
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you'll love the mud thrashers!
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12-10-2009, 09:11 PM
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Bump Steer is when your wheels steer themselves without input from the steering wheel. I did not perceive my wheels turning without my input, it happened. I would also assume that one major reason comp rigs don't use it is due to COG among other things. So tell me this, why do people install pan hard setups in 1:1 vehicles if they don't have any effect on the whole suspension? And this directly from the MSD website: Quote:
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12-10-2009, 09:57 PM
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| No idea what I'm doing Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Underground, CO
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This is true, but you are leaving out one important part...... Bump steer is when your wheels steer themselves without input from the steering wheel......like you said......but it happens when the suspension is moving up and down. As the suspension moves up and down, the steering arm moves with it, but in an arc. Since the arm is rigid, and the servo is mounted independent of the axle, it exerts force on your steering knuckle and causes the wheels to turn. When the servo is on the axle, it moves with the axle so it does not exert force on the knuckles as the suspension cycles......it's going along for the ride with the suspension. I have no doubt you experienced your wheels moving without input from your radio, but it wasn't bump steer......not if your servo was mounted to your axle. The MSD quote is correct, but I feel it's a bit misleading. It is possible to build a steering system with very little to no bump steer, but the HB kit does not eliminate bump steer from an axle mounted servo setup, since there is none to eliminate. . | |
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