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discgolferlee · 01-03-2011, 12:06 PM

had a quick question as I prepare to start my build tonight. my first scaler but not first crawler or rc by any means.
so i got some lucas red n tacky #2 for grease. should I completly fill the axle housing with this to keep water out or 3/4 full or what? i was going to fill it in then wondered if it would be too much and cause strain on motor. I know it's a lubricant but its thick.

any help appreciated

rod.d · 01-03-2011, 01:35 PM

I have been thinking about the same thing myself. I was thinking about sealing the 2 axle halves together with some RTV, but of course water will still get in around the bearings. It might be enough to just pack some grease in behing the bearings to keep water from penetrating further, but I think filling the whole axle with grease would generate a lot of drag. Then again I am new to this so I am not sure, just sharing what I was thinking.

murky123 · 01-03-2011, 02:04 PM

I filled both my axles completly with marinegrease.
and when I say completly, I mean 100% full

the excessive will be squeezed out when you put your diff in the axle.

the extra drag is minimal

just fill it up..

discgolferlee · 01-03-2011, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by murky123

I filled both my axles completly with marinegrease.
and when I say completly, I mean 100% full

the excessive will be squeezed out when you put your diff in the axle.

the extra drag is minimal

just fill it up..

yeah I figured I would fill it up and see how it feels.

CruiserHead · 01-03-2011, 05:06 PM

I have seen people add Zerk-type fittings to make it ez to keep them filled thereafter....

I use the green waterproof bicycle grease called Phil Wood, but only enough to lube all the gears and bearings...Seems like no matter how much i used before, I still had to start over because of debris contamination...

C H

rod.d · 01-03-2011, 05:11 PM

zerks... that is funny. I guess that would work to keep it full. How much maintenance is required on these axles? I realize that it probably depends on how much you run them in water and mud, but generally how often do you have to clean and re-grease them?

discgolferlee · 01-03-2011, 06:01 PM

well filled both axles up and they are heavy. LOL at least it's low C.O.G weight. feels smooth but definetly some resistance. we'll see once build is complete. maybe they will break in and ease up

CruiserHead · 01-03-2011, 08:34 PM

You should start to see grease oozing out of the seem while wheeling from time to time...

Both my pumpkins wore through this last trip (I could see the gears inside turning!LOL). I might just have revolutionized a way to not only strengthen the pumpkin, but also make it last forever....and ever. I used a mixable plastic from smooth-on (task) that is mixed 1:1 and is tough as all hell. You can put it on as thick as you want and when it dries you can file and sand it to whatever shape and thickness you want (can be clearance issues if too thick)... Now to figure out how to make them so you can snap them on and off!!!!

Next time Ill buy a black dye for the plastic because Task comes in White and some other funky color....Pictures later! I have to find my cord.....Its hilarious!!!

I saw a guy use a different plastic called shape-lock to make a crab robot shell..I am thinking that might be too soft, but i have never used it... Could be perfect?

C H

discgolferlee · 01-03-2011, 11:34 PM

thanks for help so far guys.
I need some advice now.
Is everyone running full size 2s lipos or what in these. I had planned on running a small crawler type 3s lipo but now starting to wonder about just using some 2s lipos I have already.
are the normal sized 2s type packs (like I run in my blitz ese) too big and bulky.
some upgrades I am thinking of already are
aluminum front steering knuckles and driveshafts.
Do the standard scx10 junfac,mip or integy driveshafts fir the honcho kit. not sure if it's too long wheelbase or not to use up standard scx10 or ax10 driveshafts.
sorry just trying to get a feeler for what parts are interchangable between this truck and ax10 and or standard scx10.

thanks guys

discgolferlee · 01-06-2011, 10:33 AM

so I got the basic build done - electronics and whatnot.
I filled axles full of lucas oil red n tacky #2 to help keep out the water
it does feel like allot of drag from this. should I be concerned with this burning up my motor.
I am undecided yet if Im going with a 45t or 35t.

rod.d · 01-06-2011, 10:36 AM

Sounds like you and I are at about the same place. I filled mine with marine grease, and it was also very stiff. I ended up running them connected to my electric drill for a while. They got warm, and also some of the excess grease walked its way out along the pinion and axle shafts. They seem much better now. I think I just packed it a bit too tight

discgolferlee · 01-06-2011, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rod.d

Sounds like you and I are at about the same place. I filled mine with marine grease, and it was also very stiff. I ended up running them connected to my electric drill for a while. They got warm, and also some of the excess grease walked its way out along the pinion and axle shafts. They seem much better now. I think I just packed it a bit too tight

what motor you running and does it get super hot.

rod.d · 01-06-2011, 10:53 AM

I don't have my motor yet, but I will probably run my velineon 3500 and vxl-3s from my traxxas slash 4x4 in it for a while to play around, until I can save some money for the motor and esc. Right now I am also trying to decide between a tekin fx-r and 35t pro, or a holmes hobbies torque master br-xl and then new 540 that he is developing.

discgolferlee · 01-06-2011, 10:56 AM

i was in almost exact electronics decision but have decided to go with holmes hobbies esc to support the man who supports this section of the hobby. also the torquemaster in waterproof edition sounds perfect.
was planning on just going with the sport motor he offers since it's gonna see rough conditions. much easier on my wallet and it comes with bearings.

rod.d · 01-06-2011, 11:31 AM

which motor are you talking about? yes I am leaning that direction (holmes) as well. He seems genuinely involved in the hobby and as far as I can tell makes a great product.

discgolferlee · 01-06-2011, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rod.d

which motor are you talking about? yes I am leaning that direction (holmes) as well. He seems genuinely involved in the hobby and as far as I can tell makes a great product.

this motorhttp://holmeshobbies.com/product.php...&cat=17&page=1

01-03-2011, 12:06 PM	#1
discgolferlee Rock Crawler Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Clinton,Michigan Posts: 908	starting my scx10 build tonight had a quick question as I prepare to start my build tonight. my first scaler but not first crawler or rc by any means. so i got some lucas red n tacky #2 for grease. should I completly fill the axle housing with this to keep water out or 3/4 full or what? i was going to fill it in then wondered if it would be too much and cause strain on motor. I know it's a lubricant but its thick. any help appreciated

01-03-2011, 01:35 PM	#2
rod.d Rock Stacker Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: USA, OH, Columbus Posts: 72	I have been thinking about the same thing myself. I was thinking about sealing the 2 axle halves together with some RTV, but of course water will still get in around the bearings. It might be enough to just pack some grease in behing the bearings to keep water from penetrating further, but I think filling the whole axle with grease would generate a lot of drag. Then again I am new to this so I am not sure, just sharing what I was thinking.

01-03-2011, 02:04 PM	#3
murky123 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: netherlands Posts: 348	I filled both my axles completly with marinegrease. and when I say completly, I mean 100% full the excessive will be squeezed out when you put your diff in the axle. the extra drag is minimal just fill it up..

01-03-2011, 05:06 PM	#5
CruiserHead Quarry Creeper Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Orangevale Posts: 223	I have seen people add Zerk-type fittings to make it ez to keep them filled thereafter.... I use the green waterproof bicycle grease called Phil Wood, but only enough to lube all the gears and bearings...Seems like no matter how much i used before, I still had to start over because of debris contamination... C H

01-03-2011, 05:11 PM	#6
rod.d Rock Stacker Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: USA, OH, Columbus Posts: 72	zerks... that is funny. I guess that would work to keep it full. How much maintenance is required on these axles? I realize that it probably depends on how much you run them in water and mud, but generally how often do you have to clean and re-grease them?

01-03-2011, 06:01 PM	#7
discgolferlee Rock Crawler Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Clinton,Michigan Posts: 908	well filled both axles up and they are heavy. LOL at least it's low C.O.G weight. feels smooth but definetly some resistance. we'll see once build is complete. maybe they will break in and ease up

01-03-2011, 08:34 PM	#8
CruiserHead Quarry Creeper Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Orangevale Posts: 223	You should start to see grease oozing out of the seem while wheeling from time to time... Both my pumpkins wore through this last trip (I could see the gears inside turning!LOL). I might just have revolutionized a way to not only strengthen the pumpkin, but also make it last forever....and ever. I used a mixable plastic from smooth-on (task) that is mixed 1:1 and is tough as all hell. You can put it on as thick as you want and when it dries you can file and sand it to whatever shape and thickness you want (can be clearance issues if too thick)... Now to figure out how to make them so you can snap them on and off!!!! Next time Ill buy a black dye for the plastic because Task comes in White and some other funky color....Pictures later! I have to find my cord.....Its hilarious!!! I saw a guy use a different plastic called shape-lock to make a crab robot shell..I am thinking that might be too soft, but i have never used it... Could be perfect? C H

01-03-2011, 11:34 PM	#9
discgolferlee Rock Crawler Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Clinton,Michigan Posts: 908	thanks for help so far guys. I need some advice now. Is everyone running full size 2s lipos or what in these. I had planned on running a small crawler type 3s lipo but now starting to wonder about just using some 2s lipos I have already. are the normal sized 2s type packs (like I run in my blitz ese) too big and bulky. some upgrades I am thinking of already are aluminum front steering knuckles and driveshafts. Do the standard scx10 junfac,mip or integy driveshafts fir the honcho kit. not sure if it's too long wheelbase or not to use up standard scx10 or ax10 driveshafts. sorry just trying to get a feeler for what parts are interchangable between this truck and ax10 and or standard scx10. thanks guys

01-06-2011, 10:33 AM	#10
discgolferlee Rock Crawler Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Clinton,Michigan Posts: 908	so I got the basic build done - electronics and whatnot. I filled axles full of lucas oil red n tacky #2 to help keep out the water it does feel like allot of drag from this. should I be concerned with this burning up my motor. I am undecided yet if Im going with a 45t or 35t.

01-06-2011, 10:36 AM	#11
rod.d Rock Stacker Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: USA, OH, Columbus Posts: 72	Sounds like you and I are at about the same place. I filled mine with marine grease, and it was also very stiff. I ended up running them connected to my electric drill for a while. They got warm, and also some of the excess grease walked its way out along the pinion and axle shafts. They seem much better now. I think I just packed it a bit too tight

01-06-2011, 10:53 AM	#13
rod.d Rock Stacker Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: USA, OH, Columbus Posts: 72	I don't have my motor yet, but I will probably run my velineon 3500 and vxl-3s from my traxxas slash 4x4 in it for a while to play around, until I can save some money for the motor and esc. Right now I am also trying to decide between a tekin fx-r and 35t pro, or a holmes hobbies torque master br-xl and then new 540 that he is developing.

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01-06-2011, 10:56 AM	#14
discgolferlee Rock Crawler Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Clinton,Michigan Posts: 908	i was in almost exact electronics decision but have decided to go with holmes hobbies esc to support the man who supports this section of the hobby. also the torquemaster in waterproof edition sounds perfect. was planning on just going with the sport motor he offers since it's gonna see rough conditions. much easier on my wallet and it comes with bearings.

01-06-2011, 11:31 AM	#15
rod.d Rock Stacker Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: USA, OH, Columbus Posts: 72	which motor are you talking about? yes I am leaning that direction (holmes) as well. He seems genuinely involved in the hobby and as far as I can tell makes a great product.

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