08-31-2011, 09:42 AM | #1 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: tri cities
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| level 3 rc cms?
Has anyone used this kit by level 3 rc?
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08-31-2011, 09:47 AM | #2 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: La Costa, CA
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Nope...never heard of it. Is there a link?
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08-31-2011, 09:49 AM | #3 |
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08-31-2011, 10:01 AM | #4 |
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I ordered one. $17 dollars shipped and makes a good platform for electronics.
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08-31-2011, 10:15 AM | #5 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: La Costa, CA
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I would go Hand Bros for CMS. That thing has bump steer written all over it with no panhard bar.
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08-31-2011, 10:34 AM | #6 |
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But a hand bros is around $50. Ill take my chances for $17
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08-31-2011, 11:37 AM | #7 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Queen Creek, AZ
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You get what you pay for. Pay poor people prices, expect poor people performance. |
08-31-2011, 01:06 PM | #8 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: tri cities
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That's why you make your own panhard bar. Problem solved |
08-31-2011, 02:09 PM | #9 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Over at yo mama's house
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It seems that they just made a plate to mount the servo higher. It is still in the same plane as before. IMO, you could make something similar with a piece of delrin, if you have some. I'm pretty sure the servos also mount differently on the chassis. Your call, but I know that the Handbros kit is worth the money and it works. |
09-01-2011, 03:08 AM | #10 |
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My only thing is that I live in a shitty apartment right now (moving to spokane with an apartment that has a garage) anyways, I don't have the place to do that kind of machine work. The way I see it is, I put it together and see if it works. If not I send it back. Plus I have 2 kids and a wife so I have to be as cheap as possible.
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09-01-2011, 03:30 AM | #11 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Victoria Australia
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You can chassis mount your servo using parts supplied with the scx10 there is a thread on here somewhere, I did it and it works fine and it's free
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09-01-2011, 03:34 AM | #12 |
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09-01-2011, 03:37 AM | #13 |
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The one I did was using the original servo plate and works well, as I said there is a thread somewhere with step by step instructions.
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09-01-2011, 08:15 AM | #14 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Grandview, IA
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From my reading up on this topic the Handbros kit isn't exactly the best thing ever. There are plenty of guys out there reporting less flex due to the panhard bar. Also is bumpsteer really a big deal on a crawler? It's not like the truck is doing 65mph speed runs and the bump steer caused by the right tire hitting a pebble causes the truck to whip towards a curb causing fiery destruction of the vehicle. Since the entire axle isn't going up and down all at once bump steer will be minor and easy corrected by steering input as the steer axle flexes.
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09-01-2011, 09:11 AM | #15 |
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I ended up just making my own last night so I'm gonna just ship it back. Thanks for the input.
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09-01-2011, 05:57 PM | #16 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Mississauga, Ontario Canada Eh!
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I have one on order, should be here any day...what the heck, it's only $17....and if it sucks....it was only $17..no big deal. |
09-01-2011, 06:21 PM | #17 |
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That's what I was saying but, then I got bored and made my own lol
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09-06-2011, 04:34 PM | #18 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Mississauga, Ontario Canada Eh!
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Mine just came in today. I'll let y'all know how it works out. |
09-06-2011, 05:36 PM | #19 |
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The issue with bumpsteer in a crawler isn't about speed. It's about forced flex when crawling. I mounted the servo to the frame on a non SCX frame and I experienced the downside to not running a panhard bar. I was running a 4 link with a chassis mounted servo. When turning left the chassis would suck down towards the ground. When turning right the chassis would raise up. In certain situations it helped my progress in others it resulted in failure of completeing an obstacle. I couldn't use a Hand Bros. kit since I wasn't using axial axles or a SCX frame so I had to make the whole thing. Not to mention at speed if hitting a bump the suspension would compress and cause an abrupt left turn causing a misdirection and sometimes a rollover. Not what you want in a comp setting. I hope this explains why to run a panhard with a CMS kit.
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09-06-2011, 09:20 PM | #20 |
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So I got my CMS all installed and after a little tinkering and thinking some things through and a little math.......it works absolutely perfectly. It came down to using the stock spacer on the knuckle and the proper length servo arm. No bump steer even at full flex, lock to lock and nothing hits. Don't know what all the fuss is about with this kit. Best $14 I spent yet on this truck. LOL |
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