Why is this happening?

[raceeng18]

OK, RC4WD wheels and tires. No loose screws, tires are seated correctly but this keeps happening. I've taken it apart at least four times now and re-assembled. I think the tire is moving on the wheel (pretty obvious) but why? I don't want to glue them. Your ideas please.

[eric113]

Is the tires or wheels vented ?

[johnnyh66]

yup, they are not quite air tight so they let air out when under extreem load... but then the air can't come back in.

Personally, I like my tires vented but some do not.
I use a soldering iron to melt a few small holes in between the tread.

[raceeng18]

Originally Posted by eric113

Is the tires or wheels vented ?

Yes, the wheels are vented.

[johnnyh66]

Originally Posted by raceeng18

Yes, the wheels are vented.

hmm, what foams are you running?

[raceeng18]

Originally Posted by johnnyh66

yup, they are not quite air tight so they let air out when under extreem load... but then the air can't come back in.

Personally, I like my tires vented but some do not.
I use a soldering iron to melt a few small holes in between the tread.

Do you vent your wheels also?

[raceeng18]

Originally Posted by johnnyh66

hmm, what foams are you running?

The foam that came with the tires.

[eric113]

Originally Posted by raceeng18

Yes, the wheels are vented.

Can you squeeze the tires and hear the air come out ? If not there a blockage and may need to drill foams, weights if you have any.

[johnnyh66]

Originally Posted by raceeng18

Do you vent your wheels also?

No, just the tires.

[raceeng18]

Originally Posted by eric113

Can you squeeze the tires and hear the air come out ? If not there a blockage and may need to drill foams, weights if you have any.

Yes I can. When the rigs weight is on the tires, they look a little flat. I'm not running any wheel weights so there isn't any obstruction to the vents. But, you may have hit on something eric113. These are internal bead lock wheels. I did vent the wheel and the internal ring but the holes aren't exactly lined up and maybe the foam is causing an obstruction. Maybe I need more venting. I have two holes in each the wheel and the ring 1/8 inch.

[eric113]

Originally Posted by raceeng18

Yes I can. When the rigs weight is on the tires, they look a little flat. I'm not running any wheel weights so there isn't any obstruction to the vents. But, you may have hit on something eric113. These are internal bead lock wheels. I did vent the wheel and the internal ring but the holes aren't exactly lined up and maybe the foam is causing an obstruction. Maybe I need more venting. I have two holes in each the wheel and the ring 1/8 inch.

The holes on the wheels and ring do need to line up. Try lining them best you can. 2 1/8" holes is plenty. You may try venting the tires. I do Johnny does, I used soldering iron and burn a hole or you can use a leather hole puncher.

[TacoCrawler]

what's the backside of the tire look like ?

In other words: this occurring on both the outer/inner sidewall ?

[raceeng18]

OK guys thanks for the input. I'm going to try one more set of holes. I will drill through the ring and into the wheel in one motion so I'll be sure those holes will line up upon re-assembly. I'll let you know the outcome, thanks again.

[raceeng18]

Originally Posted by TacoCrawler

what's the backside of the tire look like ?

In other words: this occurring on both the outer/inner sidewall ?

No, just the outer wall.

[TacoCrawler]

did you ever 180 the tire on the wheel...
see if the same thing occurs on the inside surface ?

looks to me like the outer bead is slipping.
while the inner bead is staying put.

what motor ? 2s or 3s ?

do both sides of this tire feel/look of equal thickness ?
consistent with the others ?

What happens if your rotate that tire/wheel to a different axle/hub ?

[Meatwad]

Looks like either the inside or outside of the tire bead is rotating more than the other side. Had this happen on the steelies. Try scuffing lightly the rings/wheel in a perpendicular direction of the tire rotation, seemed to help my set.

[raceeng18]

Originally Posted by TacoCrawler

did you ever 180 the tire on the wheel...
see if the same thing occurs on the inside surface ?

looks to me like the outer bead is slipping.
while the inner bead is staying put.

what motor ? 2s or 3s ?

do both sides of this tire feel/look of equal thickness ?
consistent with the others ?

What happens if your rotate that tire/wheel to a different axle/hub ?

#1 No I did not.
#2 Novak 35T 2's
#3 Tire looks and feels the same to me. Tires were purchased and mounted at the same time.
#4 I did this, only does it when it's on the rear of the truck. BUT, as you know, you don't always run the same line, exactly. This is happening in my backyard going through the same course. But, not always the exact same line.

Thanks Taco, you've given me more to consider.

[raceeng18]

Originally Posted by Meatwad

Looks like either the inside or outside of the tire bead is rotating more than the other side. Had this happen on the steelies. Try scuffing lightly the rings/wheel in a perpendicular direction of the tire rotation, seemed to help my set.

Thanks, Meatwad, I'll give that a try. This is the only set of aluminum wheels this is happening on. Also, this is my only set of internal bead lock wheels. The others are fine using the same type of tire, just not the same tire set. Did that make sense?

[Rorro]

the same happened to a friend last weekend but on axial beadlocks and ripsaws. I think is because he cutted to much of the foams (the tires look flat)

[Meatwad]

Originally Posted by raceeng18

Thanks, Meatwad, I'll give that a try. This is the only set of aluminum wheels this is happening on. Also, this is my only set of internal bead lock wheels. The others are fine using the same type of tire, just not the same tire set. Did that make sense?

Yep yep Rc4wd stuff is kinda whacky sometimes...