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Old 06-16-2014, 12:54 PM   #1
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Did a search, didn't find anything similar.

When making my steering links, I had the idea of rigging a custom cross-over (EDIT: "Inverted T") setup:



The advantage to cross-over verses the typical on-the-knuckle would be reducing the stress on the steering knuckle itself, making it less prone to breakage.

I ultimately decided to use the OTK steering anyway, because its so darn simple, but I wanted to share the cross-over photo, as it might spark some ideas for others.

On the topic of alternate steering set-ups, has one ever tried to built a inverted-Y, like on the older Wranglers?
Might be a fun challenge, plus an extra touch of scale-ness.

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Old 06-16-2014, 01:05 PM   #2
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The stock steering setup IS crossover. You have built an inverted-t setup. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...ngresearch.htm

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Old 06-16-2014, 01:37 PM   #3
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Actually, THIS IS essentially the stock set-up, but with DIY components (which I hadn't seen done before). It's the various upgrade kits that tend to change it to OTK.

And by golly, I think you're right about the terminology.
The image in my head when building it was a kit sold by Rugged Ridge, labeled as a "cross over conversion."
It features a drag-link, connected to an end-to-end tie rod.
Guess that's just their marketing team.
First time I've heard it referred to as an inverted T, though.

In any case, this is what I built.

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My old Y steering..

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Oh... Nice.

Did you drill and tap through the link?
I'd love any info you have on the construction of it.

Why did you replace it, any problems with it?
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Oh... Nice.

Did you drill and tap through the link?
I'd love any info you have on the construction of it.

Why did you replace it, any problems with it?
Yes, everything is drilled and tapped.

No issues. I had full throw. Just wanted go back to standard steering linkage.
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I like yours a bit better eric. keeps the steering rod at full length for a longer arc, and less bump steer at full droop.
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I like yours a bit better eric. keeps the steering rod at full length for a longer arc, and less bump steer at full droop.
Inverted Y causes toe change as the suspension cycles.
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Yes, very slight toe-out as it compresses. But I doubt it'd be noticeable on a low speed RC.


Eric, were your links solid, or all-tread and brake line?
Any trick to drilling them?
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Yes, very slight toe-out as it compresses. But I doubt it'd be noticeable on a low speed RC.


Eric, were your links solid, or all-tread and brake line?
Any trick to drilling them?
It does cause some toe out. But I never really noticed on mine.

My links were solid aluminum drilled and tapped for 3mm set screws. just used a jeepin Doug drill bushings, drill press, 3mm tap&drill set.
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