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09-13-2011, 02:30 PM
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|  Ultimate Crawler Setup?
Well going to start ordering parts for my build. Going to go with a crawler rather than a racer. I have a Mamba Max Pro in my Mini E-Revo that I could CANN to my Wraith but I don't think that would be a good ESC for crawling and deffinetly with the motor I have for it 6900kv, the mini can go almost 90mph on it with a 4s lipo. I have a stock Axial 27t from my AX-10 that I can swap in for the time being, but I know that won't be slow enough. I know Harley recamends CrawlMaster Pro 540. I know there is alot of info from what I have searched, but nothing stating prime for the Wraith and such. Cost is not a major issue, as I feel do it right the first time! What I'm thinking is: CrawlMaster Pro 540 (32t) -- Now looking and looks like a 20t crawlmaster is about same as 35t torquemaster? can anyone confirm? which would be better? Holmes Hobbies TorqueMaster BR-XL or Castle Creations MMP ZIPPY Flightmax 5000mAh 2S1P 20C 87T/15T or 20T Gears? Have no clue in this area. Last edited by XDR; 09-13-2011 at 02:54 PM. |
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09-13-2011, 02:55 PM
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Mine is built to be a crawler not a racer, but there is no "ultimate" setup. Here is some info that will improve crawlability: Being the most capable crawler often times require wheel speed. A 16t Crawlmaster would be a better motor. Gear it around 87/18 and you'll have decent control and wheel speed. Putting under drive gears in the rear will help further. Going to the R35 Ripsaws would be a great move. That battery is not a great choice if you are going for capability. You want something smaller and likely 3s. Then relocate it under the hood. You will need weight in the wheel. 4WS is a big advantage. MIP driveshafts will likely be needed as well as upgraded transmission gears. Upgrade knuckles and C's as well as steering and suspension linkages. Lower the ground clearance, shorter shocks are a good idea. Proline Powerstroke Front shocks for the Slash work well. |
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09-13-2011, 03:01 PM
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09-13-2011, 03:04 PM
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Robinson Trans gears is your first and most important. RPP Hobby has both in stock | |
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09-13-2011, 03:09 PM
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Robinson Racing Outdrive Diff Lock Gear AX10 which ones you talking about? both of those? | |
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09-13-2011, 03:10 PM
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Harley, would Zippy Flightmax 2100mAh 3S 35C be a better battery? What mAH and C rating should I look for? |
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09-13-2011, 03:15 PM
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http://www.rpphobby.com/product_p/rrp1541.htm Robinson Racing Hardened Aluminum Diff Gear: AX10  http://www.rpphobby.com/product_p/rrp1540.htm | |
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09-13-2011, 03:17 PM
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11.1V 2200mAh Li-polymer battery http://www.truerc.com/index.php?main...fdu2he1v13ud10 | |
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09-13-2011, 03:21 PM
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09-14-2011, 09:52 AM
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Looking at diagrams there is 3 gears in the tranny, is the 3rd allready metal? I know the Hot Racing tranny gears come with 3. | |
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09-14-2011, 09:59 AM
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Ok, here is what I have on my shopping list from RPP.. Robinson Racing Hardened Aluminum Diff Gear: AX10 Robinson Racing Hard Steel Idler Gear AX10 Robinson Racing 18T 48P Pinion Robinson Racing Super Spur 48P 87T AX10 on the spur and pinion, the 48P, is that the correct size? is that width or what does that pertain to the gear? |
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09-14-2011, 10:07 AM
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09-14-2011, 10:08 AM
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09-14-2011, 10:16 AM
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09-14-2011, 03:05 PM
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| Another question. Looking at choices of batteries (size and discharge), I found a ZIPPY Flightmax 2200mAh 3S1P 40C. Would having the higher "C" rating benifit me in a crawler setup? or could I get one that is like 15C or 20C and have same results? |
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09-14-2011, 03:11 PM
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All you guys in your Wraiths are making get the itch again. I just want to say thanks for it! I subscribed to this thread to keep my eye on it and build it better than it came from the factory!
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09-14-2011, 05:50 PM
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09-15-2011, 06:47 AM
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| Just placed an order for the following items to start build: Robinson Racing Hardened Aluminum Diff Gear: AX10 Robinson Racing Hard Steel Idler Gear AX10 Robinson Racing 18T 48P Pinion Robinson Racing Super Spur 48P 87T AX10 Axial HEAVY DUTY BEVEL GEAR SET 43T/13T Next I think I'm going to tackle the steering and suspension and just run my Axial 27t for now. |
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09-17-2011, 05:51 PM
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| Here is what I got installed tonight.. Robinson Racing Hardened Aluminum Diff Gear: AX10 Robinson Racing Hard Steel Idler Gear AX10 Robinson Racing 18T 48P Pinion Robinson Racing Super Spur 48P 87T AX10 Axial 27t Motor (temp motor) Here is the snag.. Axial HEAVY DUTY BEVEL GEAR SET 43T/13T The pinion on the stock wraith is a 2 piece, the one about is 1. The shaft on the wraith has a hole, the one above has a flat spot. I tried to drill through to make a hole but no luck. I don't want to just do a set screw (have it installed temp that way) because I think the new design is better/stronger. Any ideas? Thinking of taking it to a machine shop and have them drill it for me. Here is the parts that I got installed..   Last edited by XDR; 09-17-2011 at 06:26 PM. |
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09-18-2011, 04:41 PM
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Well spent some time working on the light covers.. Also tinted the lens to look like the Hella Black Magic Lights. Here is a photo of the progress. Sprayed clear on them tonight and waiting for the paint to cure on everything for reassembly. Color theme is Star Spangle Blue and Competition Orange.  |
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