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Old 11-21-2011, 03:46 PM   #1
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Hey guys I have searched and searched as a bitch of a time it can be on a iPhone. But have been unsuccessful in finding a answer. I purchased all vanquish front end upgrades(chubs knuckles tie rod drag link). My problem is the stock Wraith wheels don't clear the rear arms on the knuckle. Normal?? Time to bust out the dremel?? Pony up for some wheels?? If so what hex as there are a ton. Also the drag link seems to be to long?? Any input is great.
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Old 11-21-2011, 04:27 PM   #2
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rear arms? Did you buy xr10 knuckles and not wraith?
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Old 11-21-2011, 05:20 PM   #3
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The knuckle shouldn't have any rear arms.
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Old 11-21-2011, 05:29 PM   #4
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I just looked on the vanquish site when you click on Wraith products they show the xr-10's. Which are the ones I ordered. The bummer part is in the you might also like they show the Wraith ones. But aren't the stock ones just plastic xr-10's?? So shouldn't the vanquish xr-10's work?? I mean they do minus the arms rubbing
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I just looked on the vanquish site when you click on Wraith products they show the xr-10's. Which are the ones I ordered. The bummer part is in the you might also like they show the Wraith ones. But aren't the stock ones just plastic xr-10's?? So shouldn't the vanquish xr-10's work?? I mean they do minus the arms rubbing
I think the degree of the rear xr10 arms differ from vanquish to stock.
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I think the degree of the rear xr10 arms differ from vanquish to stock.
The Vanquish XR10 knuckles are zero ackerman which moves the rear arms further out. That is why you have issues.
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So which way do I go, to fix the problem?? I really have no problem trimming the arms. Is there a benefit to the zero Ackerman ??
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So which way do I go, to fix the problem?? I really have no problem trimming the arms. Is there a benefit to the zero Ackerman ??
Zero ackerman is something common in the crawling world. There are threads specifically on that, I'm not going to go through the whole process of trying to explain it. In short it helps turning in locked axles.
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Thanks for not writing a textbook on it. I just needed the redneck explanation.
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Old 11-21-2011, 07:44 PM   #10
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the inner tire turns sharper. Aka turning left the left tire will be turned more.

It helps turning on any rig. Locked axles will not turn as tight as open so it's even more important.

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the inner tire turns sharper. Aka turning left the left tire will be turned more.

It helps turning on any rig. Locked axles will not turn as tight as open so it's even more important.
Thats actually not correct. Zero ackerman means they turn the same on both sides. Correct ackerman means the inner tire turns sharper.
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Really? I thought it was the other way around.
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Really? I thought it was the other way around.
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RcTek - Radio Controlled Model Car Handling - The Ackerman Steering Principle

Zero toe is true Ackerman. Image on left showing the tire turned in more on the inside tire.
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RcTek - Radio Controlled Model Car Handling - The Ackerman Steering Principle

Zero toe is true Ackerman. Image on left showing the tire turned in more on the inside tire.
Our "Zero Ackerman" is the parallel steering arms. No ackerman.
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Ok. I haven't had both (zero ackerman/not) as I got out of crawling when axial started in. So have owned one axial based rig but plan on a wraith in a week to get back in the game.

Thanks for the clarification. So no Ackerman is best on a crawler?
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