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JasonInAugusta 06-14-2012 10:14 PM

JIA's IFS Ultra4 build
 
We got to Hawaii and it didn't take long for DTP and Kila to get us back into crawling.

Started with a Wraith kit and built that with electronics donated by DTP and Kila. That was to be Jeff's rig. He drove it and decided he liked his old AX-based rig that's in our household goods better, but he kept driving the Wraith.

Megan decided she wanted her own rig, but she wanted something more along the lines of her old 1.9 Chevy, so she got a RTR Honcho.

THEN one of the local guys had a Wraith listed on CL with VP stuff, lipos, charger, and some other stuff. Price was a steal so I picked that thing up.

I wanted to build an Ultra4 rig with the Wraith, but with the Exo front end.

So I bought an Exo. :roll:

Pics tell the story. I'm staying in a hotel right now. Hack saw, cordless Dremel, cordless screwdriver with a few hex bits, X-acto, and pliers were the tools used.

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...71634573_n.jpg

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...76942583_n.jpg

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...32201616_n.jpg

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...59886335_n.jpg

Ty@Tekin 06-14-2012 10:23 PM

Re: JIA's Wraith build
 
:shock:

That is badass, all that done with just those tools? Will be watching for more.

tcm glx 06-14-2012 11:36 PM

Re: JIA's Wraith build
 
Holy crap!! Details details details!!! Des the 4wd work?any pics of where you cut and exactly how you mounted everything? That's exactly what I have been wanting!!

JasonInAugusta 06-15-2012 01:08 AM

Re: JIA's Wraith build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ty@Tekin (Post 3778966)
:shock:

That is badass, all that done with just those tools? Will be watching for more.

Yeah, it didn't take long, either. Did it while watching the Heat/Thunder game. Mostly watched the game.

Here's the actual tools used. I never used pliers. Or that tape measure.
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...16181792_n.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcm glx (Post 3779067)
Holy crap!! Details details details!!! Des the 4wd work?any pics of where you cut and exactly how you mounted everything? That's exactly what I have been wanting!!

Don't have the 4WD ran yet. Will get that going here in a few. My good camera is charging so I'll get detail shots of everything tomorrow.

I placed the Wraith rear and Exo front next to a stock Wraith, eyeballed where I needed to cut the Exo chassis and made the cut. Removed the top center section of the Wraith cage, removed the tranny, and put the Exo chassis and front suspension back in place to mark the four holes for the transmission bolts. Drilled those, bolted the transmission/Wraith chassis/Exo chassis together with longer screws (4mm chassis thickness requires longer screws to be used here) then drilled other holes in the Exo chassis and Wraith skid to strengthen it all before working on the front end. Bolted the top center section of the Wraith cage back in place and started on the front tube work.

I tied the Wraith cage to the Exo front end with a mix of the Wraith and Exo front tube pieces.

I cut each Wraith "main frame side" (AX80074) down about an inch on the front. I cut these JUST in front the forward mounting point for the front shock hoops (AX80077[2]).

I cut the Exo cage "center top and front" (AX80110) right behind where the step is at the rear of each leg. I then fish-mouthed the legs so they could bolt to part number AX80076[2] on the Wraith cage. I used a Sharpie to mark where thru holes needed to be drilled in the Wraith piece to bolt the Exo piece in place. Be careful here, there's a screw that comes up into the stock Wraith part (AX80076) and you'll need to make sure you're above that screw. Or use a slightly shorter screw.

Exo part number AX80110 bolts in place just like in the Exo instructions to the front shock tower. At the rear the legs bolt to Wraith AX80076 using the holes drilled earlier.

The Wraith shock hoops were also re-used in their stock locations. There's a small hole on each side of the Exo center and top front (AX80110) that is like the Wraith sway bar holes. I marked/drilled the Wraith main frame to run a 3mm screw into these holes.

With the whole thing bolted together, it's solid.

I wanted to use the stock Wraith front bumper and lights so I placed the piece over the Exo upper bumper mount, marked the area to be removed, and cut. This means it'll just require a longer screw to mount the Wraith bumper/lights on the Exo bumper/skid.


I'll get pics to clarify things later. It's not hard at all, but there's a bit of rake in the thing now. The rear sits a little higher than the front. I know this will change as batteries and crap are placed, but for now I ran the pre-load all the way down on the front shocks. I'll sort out suspension once it's running. I'm using borrowed electronics for now so everything is in flux until I get a definite setup.

tcm glx 06-15-2012 07:56 AM

Re: JIA's Wraith build
 
Thqnka Jason, pics would be great.

theloudone 06-15-2012 08:04 AM

Re: JIA's Wraith build
 
looks awesome

Brandon 06-15-2012 09:08 AM

Re: JIA's Wraith build
 
Nice job Jason!

If you are ok with non-beadlock wheels up front stretch those tires over the EXO wheels to keep the front width in check. "thumbsup"

MX304 06-15-2012 02:12 PM

Re: JIA's Wraith build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonInAugusta (Post 3778948)
We got to Hawaii and it didn't take long for DTP and Kila to get us back into crawling.

Started with a Wraith kit and built that with electronics donated by DTP and Kila. That was to be Jeff's rig. He drove it and decided he liked his old AX-based rig that's in our household goods better, but he kept driving the Wraith.

Megan decided she wanted her own rig, but she wanted something more along the lines of her old 1.9 Chevy, so she got a RTR Honcho.

THEN one of the local guys had a Wraith listed on CL with VP stuff, lipos, charger, and some other stuff. Price was a steal so I picked that thing up.

I wanted to build an Ultra4 rig with the Wraith, but with the Exo front end.

So I bought an Exo. :roll:

Pics tell the story. I'm staying in a hotel right now. Hack saw, cordless Dremel, cordless screwdriver with a few hex bits, X-acto, and pliers were the tools used.

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...71634573_n.jpg

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...76942583_n.jpg

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...32201616_n.jpg

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...59886335_n.jpg

Any chance you would sell that Exo cage and body? I've been looking for one to put on my Losi SCTE chassis.

Natedog 06-15-2012 02:33 PM

Re: JIA's Wraith build
 
Pretty cool, thanks for the detailed description and waiting for more pics. :)

JasonInAugusta 06-15-2012 08:34 PM

Re: JIA's Wraith build
 
MX304, I'm keeping all parts.

Just got this thing out to mess with. As promised, a pic showing how it's all tied together. Pretty simple. Whenever I get the urge I'll clean up the cut-off portion of the Wraith side chassis and round it down. Not bothering with it now.

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...56890938_n.jpg

Even though I'm in a hotel and working with limited tools, I'm looking for a way to tie the Exo steering posts to the aluminum chassis plate. I think Axial missed the mark on the Exo's steering. The lower steering post mounts should've been mounted to the aluminum chassis plate instead of the soft plastic sides.

JasonInAugusta 06-15-2012 08:43 PM

Re: JIA's IFS Wraith build
 
Another Exo part that might get put to use until I can start the real build.

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...10051322_n.jpg

JasonInAugusta 06-15-2012 10:57 PM

Re: JIA's IFS Wraith build
 
More work.

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...74038400_n.jpg

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...35681116_n.jpg

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...44955835_n.jpg

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...51165999_n.jpg

tcm glx 06-15-2012 11:02 PM

Re: JIA's IFS Wraith build
 
Can we get some pics of where and how the frame mounts.

JasonInAugusta 06-16-2012 12:26 AM

Re: JIA's IFS Wraith build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tcm glx (Post 3780369)
Can we get some pics of where and how the frame mounts.

Not sure I understand what you're looking for. Where the frame mounts to...what?

Maybe this will help.

This is the Wraith chassis with the Exo top center brace bolted in place. The Exo brace bolts to the back side of the Exo shock tower.
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...79438288_n.jpg

Colby 06-16-2012 12:57 AM

Re: JIA's IFS Wraith build
 
From GA to the scary land of volcanoes and palm trees :mrgreen: Wraith is looking awesome, and very different from any wraith before it! I expect nothing less from you JIA. Keep up the good work, glad to see you back at it "thumbsup"

JasonInAugusta 06-16-2012 01:32 AM

Re: JIA's IFS Wraith build
 
Thanks man.

Was cleaning up the room a bit (searching for the damn steering servo that was right in front of me) and decided to see how it flexes while empty.

It does alright.

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...65338075_n.jpg

Now that I've found the servo I guess I'll start sorting out the steering.

JasonInAugusta 06-16-2012 03:33 AM

Re: JIA's IFS Wraith build
 
Steering is done.

Stuck a Traxxas servo in the stock Exo servo mount and mounted it in the stock Exo servo location.

I used small pieces of the Exo's plastic chassis plates to mount the posts for the steering bellcranks.

Then entire steering assembly is from the Exo -including the servo saver that's built into the bellcrank. It'll do for now.

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...93536992_n.jpg

Bottom view.
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...49767964_n.jpg

JasonInAugusta 06-16-2012 04:26 AM

Re: JIA's IFS Wraith build
 
Sizing things up out back.

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...12928283_n.jpg

tcm glx 06-16-2012 07:53 AM

Re: JIA's IFS Wraith build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonInAugusta (Post 3780437)
Not sure I understand what you're looking for. Where the frame mounts to...what?

Maybe this will help.

This is the Wraith chassis with the Exo top center brace bolted in place. The Exo brace bolts to the back side of the Exo shock tower.
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...79438288_n.jpg



Sorry man, meant where yu cut the exo chassis, how does the exo chassis bolt up to the wrath chassis. A pic from underneath would be awesome.

MX304 06-16-2012 12:30 PM

Re: JIA's IFS Wraith build
 
Very cool project! Can't wait to see how it runs.


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