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Old 07-05-2012, 11:44 AM   #1
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FWB2 sounded like an fun combo.
Thanks C.H.U.D.
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/membe...%2Ad-24990.htm

Well i did transform this
A wraith is born, and some evolution



With this, borrowed picture, mine is White.
Picture linkt from the creator CHUD, hope its ok? , if not pm me for edit.








First try, was to just "bolt on" try it.
work kind of great, almost.
Front.
driveshaft issues, cut down
the clock of the frontax, was a bit to much for servo and steering. -edit after cut down
possible to drill/tap axel and clock it, but i dint want to set the drill in my alu-axel.
So i i used my best friend, Superglue its always there for me!
cut up axial uppers stock plastics superglue m3allthread.
7mm alu solid rods, rly cheap drill/tap, m3 grub, kit leftovers.
also did a shockmod, -6mm flex, 6mm plastic rodendcap drilled to 4mm inside shock body.
10mm or so cut stock driveshaft.
remounted shocks for more clearence






Rear
BOLT ON (a bit to shorty for my taste) 12"
Remounted shocks for better travel and space same as front.




Well that was easy and rly cheep, total transformation cost 1-2$.

that was a chock, shaved off 800grams of chassie weight
threw out them tire weights, 0weel weights, axial 8hole beadL. 140is grams per tire rtr.

light crawler 0 tire weights, so fun combo, snippy roach.

overall great improvement, silly to compare chassies, still only in research form.
still some things to do.







...


Hi again.
Well i got some mail from the US with goodies in it.

To start, if anyone can donate some SPACE that woud be great, it is crowded in here.



Installed a few things to day.
started with the Axial Dig kit for Wraith tranny.
some space issues, easy solved with some kit leftovers.
see picture how i needed to mount the servo arm on the outside of the rodend
did also need to shave off 4mm on the servo mounts, started with 2.5mm as in the picture, 4 was needed.
as you can see its a tight fit, 3mm less space woud have killed my plans for a dig.
The dig arm actually hits the chassie.
I did install a Hitec hs225mg mini servo 4.6kg torque






i think you guys might have notice my hideous knuckle weights.
well total cost 2-3$, built with only 8"grinder and my best friend superglue
yepp they hold up for lots of abuse, still do. 96g each or almost 3oz

Mounted Servo and custom servo/Lipo on axel plate, 2mm Alu
Also on the crossbar were frontshocks normaly sits on this chassie, i mounted my Esc and Bec on a small lexan plate.
you can also see my anti lawnmower lexan plate.

Hell YES, my Tekin handwound 35t is here, 80/18 gears for 4.44/1
MAN o man, even at 4.44 gears its so much faster then my 45t
think i have a rockhopper not a crawler, ridiculous how it launches it self when you gap upphill.
101% satisfied with 35t handwound.











Thats for now, more to come.

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Time again.

Going kind of slow, atm on vacation.
still some! progress.


Did make some new uppers and installed the overdrive 36/14 front bevel set.

new uppers for better geometry and some binding issues.
going allthread m4 atm will cut solids later on , need to get all lenghts and clocks right first.
did try a new plastic, "extruded polycarbonate"
sweet, can be cold bent to 90* and rly durable. easy to work with.







Did make an custom mounting point for the rear upperlinks of polycarbonate.
rly strong and easy to grind down.
this is a prototype, wanted to test out diff axel clocks and alignment of links.
will make a new version that looks better after testing.






did actuallt buy a set of bent links, planned to make my own, but the lenght of these 30*bent links was just so perfect.
31,75Cm/12,5" wheelbase on the spot.
did make the upperrear links with allthread m4, will go 5mm Alu later
traxxas revo ends m4.







36/14HD uppfront is a really sweet uppdate for your rig.
38/13HD rear (stock gearing atm, w8ing on underdriveset )
turns better and climbs better, can actually hear the difference.
recommended!




31.75Cm/12.5" perfect lenght, stand rly nice a bit low, 2.5-2.7" belly height.







1-2 weeks w8ing on parts from US, after that i will try to finish up this build.
new build on the way, ax10 Ar60-axel scaler.

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Old 07-05-2012, 04:21 PM   #2
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Nice Festool drill.
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Old 07-05-2012, 07:12 PM   #3
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Thats really cool! I'll be following this one!
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Nice Festool drill.

yep rly like that sucker. you get what you pay for =)
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Old 07-08-2012, 03:11 PM   #5
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Very cool to see you making this work!! I was curious if Wraith axles would work with this chassis...now we know
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Old 07-09-2012, 03:17 AM   #6
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Very cool to see you making this work!! I was curious if Wraith axles would work with this chassis...now we know
i was suprised how easy it was to just bolt it on.
okay for casual driving for sure, i only compete with my friends.
(honcho, dingos & wraiths)
with this chassie, well.. they got left behind =) big time
they just dont stand a chance.

just look at shaving off 800g on chassie weight, that was just awesome.
for my taste this uppdate did take me from a semi good/bad scaler crawler to a comp crawler.
difference just amazing....

a bit boring for them but i always wanted a crawler.
well atm planning for a scaler also =), perhaps they will stop crying then.

uppdates is planned, im going for a scaler look, but pure performance comes first.
Axial Dig, AR60 front overdrive, new links and new geometry and aiming for 12.5-13" isch, atm at 12" wheelbase
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Old 07-09-2012, 03:34 PM   #7
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Subscribed, rated, read, and can't wait to see how this goes. I have this have this same plan with my ridgecrest but waiting on VP axles to be released then some how get a smaller than stock motor and ESC to fit in the chassis. So far it's awesome tho.
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Subscribed, rated, read, and can't wait to see how this goes. I have this have this same plan with my ridgecrest but waiting on VP axles to be released then some how get a smaller than stock motor and ESC to fit in the chassis. So far it's awesome tho.

Dont VP axels from Wraith fit Ridgecrest, think they are the same, AR60 OCP.
60$ or so, in some places. rly nice cog boost!
If you want small Esc, Tekin Fxr silly small and im more then happy with mine.

smaller motor, many after market are a bit smaller then stock, i know that my Tekin is.
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Old 07-10-2012, 03:39 PM   #9
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I like what I see so far. Keep us posted on your build buddy.
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now that's outside the box....
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Dont VP axels from Wraith fit Ridgecrest, think they are the same, AR60 OCP.
60$ or so, in some places. rly nice cog boost!
If you want small Esc, Tekin Fxr silly small and im more then happy with mine.

smaller motor, many after market are a bit smaller then stock, i know that my Tekin is.
Thanks for the motor and esc tip. I'm hoping the VPVD'S will b round 60$. But since the pricing and release date have not been giving yet that I know of we will have to see.
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Uppdates!

In post 1.

going to put all uppdates in post 1 and keep ohter posts for text.

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Very cool to see you making this work!! I was curious if Wraith axles would work with this chassis...now we know
Should have said something, I still have a brand new FB and a Wraith and would have gladly checked it out, but someone else has done the dirty work now

Nice work putting this together

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But since the pricing and release date have not been giving yet that I know of we will have to see.
The wraith and ridgecrest use the same axle. The VP housing has been available for a while now

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The wraith and ridgecrest use the same axle. The VP housing has been available for a while now
Yeah I knew the housing had been out and while and I forsee me ending up with VP aluminum housings which is the next best thing since sliced bread but I was referring to the new 4340 VPVD's - the inner axle shafts.
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Yeah I knew the housing had been out and while and I forsee me ending up with VP aluminum housings which is the next best thing since sliced bread but I was referring to the new 4340 VPVD's - the inner axle shafts.
that sounds like 100+ bucks for ya.

didnt even know that vp plans a new axel
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that sounds like 100+ bucks for ya.

didnt even know that vp plans a new axel
not really a new axle including the housing but these are due out next week according to the vender section.
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not really a new axle including the housing but these are due out next week according to the vender section.


they look awesome.

perhaps il buy a pair
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Uppdates in post 1, scroll down a bit.


1-2weeks w8 for the rest to come in, then ill try to finish this monster.
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updates looking sweet. I hope you don't mind but Im copying your build. Had the idea as soon as the ridgecrest came out howeve due to funds im still in the building phase. been collecting parts ever so slowly but a little at a time. Mine will be a different color but with the white chassis also.
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updates looking sweet. I hope you don't mind but Im copying your build. Had the idea as soon as the ridgecrest came out howeve due to funds im still in the building phase. been collecting parts ever so slowly but a little at a time. Mine will be a different color but with the white chassis also.

Cool bro!

glad to see that some1 actually uses my thread for help.
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