What wraith spares?

[lurch]

I'll hopefully be getting my wraith soon and was wondering what spares I need to be carrying, it'll be running 21t brushed. Thanks

[TheScaleAddict]

Bearings. LOL

[lurch]

lol how did you manage that?

[Newfiebullet]

are you upgrading any thing off the batt? is it the kit or RTR?

[TheScaleAddict]

Originally Posted by lurch

lol how did you manage that?

Torque! MuuuuWhoooHaaaHaaHaa!!!!

Tranny is geared down with Robinson Racing gears. Axles are geared down in the front and up in the rear (known as over/under drive), and I'm running a Holmes Hobbies 45T Torquemaster Pro. Add all that up, and 'test' it out on the carpet with some de-lugged 2.2 RC4WD Rock Crushers (take out every other outter lug on both sides in parallel, then take out every other set of center lugs in parallel offset from the outer lugs - provides a VERY good amount of grip) mounted to a good set of beadlocks, and you have a great recipe for broken bearings. I'm pretty sure that I'm going to twist the stock drive shafts sooner than later. It's got so much torque that if I get a rear wheel jammed in a rock, it'll flip the whole rig over. I found that out on accident. LOL Oh... I almost forgot. It's powered with a 25c 5000mAh 3S battery.

Buy it, break it, build it stronger, break it, build it stronger, break it, build it stronger, break it, build it stronger, break it, build it stronger, break it, build it stronger, break it, build it stronger, break it, build it stronger, break it, build it stronger, break it, build it stronger, break it, build it stronger, break it, build it stronger, break it, build it stronger, break it, build it stronger, break it, build it stronger..... you get the idea.

[lurch]

Originally Posted by Newfiebullet

are you upgrading any thing off the batt? is it the kit or RTR?

It's the kit version going to run 21t brushed 2s and possibly 3s

@cephas sounds like far too much torque lol mine will be no where that crazy

[TheScaleAddict]

Originally Posted by lurch

It's the kit version going to run 21t brushed 2s and possibly 3s

@cephas sounds like far too much torque lol mine will be no where that crazy

I'd recommend sticking with 2S. It seems to me that 3S, though the power is AWESOME, pushes the stock parts just a bit past their 'comfort' level. If you want to 'crawl' more than 'rock race', I'd recommend a different motor; maybe a 35t HH Torquemaster Sport 540. It comes in 27T as well, which wouldn't give you the best of both worlds, but would be a great compromise. His motors are really worth buying, and this one is not a bad deal at only $34.99. They're very high quality, and completely rebuild-able. He's on my short list for doing a vendor-spotlight page and product review on my blog. I've never had a stronger/better motor.

[RPP Hobby]

Make sure you get some spare C hubs and Knuckles, aluminum would be best. These seem to be most common parts we see to break initially. If you have spares in your parts box you can keep on playing.

Have fun with your build

[TheScaleAddict]

Originally Posted by Rpp Hobby

Make sure you get some spare C hubs and Knuckles, aluminum would be best. These seem to be most common parts we see to break initially. If you have spares in your parts box you can keep on playing.

Have fun with your build

And threadlock! If you get aluminum housings and use the aluminum c-hubs/knuckles, the bolts will rattle right on out...

[Jus]

I run a 27T HH Torquemaster Pro on 3s almost exclusively and my whole drive train is hardened steel, except for the spur.. I tend to have a lot of finesse with my driving and I don't like to abuse my $1000+ *toy* so I don't beat it too hard..

Having said that, all I carry for spare anything is a spur gear, and a couple hood pins. Oh! And axle pins and wheel nuts..

If you want to have a completely redundant backup plan for when you're a mile from the truck.. I'd probably want some plastic knuckles, chubs, lockouts...And hardware to go with it.. If you have a lot of wheel speed a few bearings might not be a bad idea.. But for mine that tops out at about 8mph they rarely if ever fail to the point that I can't drive it back.

You could even carry a spare motor but unless you never inspect it and it burns out on you in the field or you run through a bunch of mud and water and chew it all to hell, I wouldn't want to carry the extra weight around.

[baddley]

Originally Posted by cephas

I'd recommend sticking with 2S. It seems to me that 3S, though the power is AWESOME, pushes the stock parts just a bit past their 'comfort' level. If you want to 'crawl' more than 'rock race', I'd recommend a different motor; maybe a 35t HH Torquemaster Sport 540. It comes in 27T as well, which wouldn't give you the best of both worlds, but would be a great compromise. His motors are really worth buying, and this one is not a bad deal at only $34.99. They're very high quality, and completely rebuild-able. He's on my short list for doing a vendor-spotlight page and product review on my blog. I've never had a stronger/better motor.

Hi

For spares I would keep wheel nuts, bearings and a set of the pins that go into the drive shafts, (AXA175 Screw Shaft M3x2.5x11mm) the first thing i broke !

Cephas do you think the HH 35T HH Torquemaster Sport 450 has the same top end as the stock 20 T wraith motor ?

I am looking for a motor that will give me the same top speed as stock but more torque for crawling I do realize that I will have to change my gearing and do some other upgrades that go along with a different motor. I currently run a 2S LIPO on the stock setup with the battery upfront.

Thanks Scott

[TheScaleAddict]

Originally Posted by baddley

Hi

For spares I would keep wheel nuts, bearings and a set of the pins that go into the drive shafts, (AXA175 Screw Shaft M3x2.5x11mm) the first thing i broke !

Cephas do you think the HH 35T HH Torquemaster Sport 450 has the same top end as the stock 20 T wraith motor ?

I am looking for a motor that will give me the same top speed as stock but more torque for crawling I do realize that I will have to change my gearing and do some other upgrades that go along with a different motor. I currently run a 2S LIPO on the stock setup with the battery upfront.

Thanks Scott

I wouldn't think so, since it has more turns. More turns = higher torque & lower speed. Less turns = higher speed & lower torque. It would be faster than mine. They have a 27T too. If you want to keep the speed, that may be a better route for you to go.

[k7zpj]

Originally Posted by baddley

Hi

For spares I would keep wheel nuts, bearings and a set of the pins that go into the drive shafts, (AXA175 Screw Shaft M3x2.5x11mm) the first thing i broke !

Cephas do you think the HH 35T HH Torquemaster Sport 450 has the same top end as the stock 20 T wraith motor ?

I am looking for a motor that will give me the same top speed as stock but more torque for crawling I do realize that I will have to change my gearing and do some other upgrades that go along with a different motor. I currently run a 2S LIPO on the stock setup with the battery upfront.

Thanks Scott

I have a Holmes CrawlMaster 13t in my wraith. Lots of Torque for crawling with pretty good speed for the trails. If you want faster than that you will need to go with a sensored brushless motor.

[LuvMyTJ]

Originally Posted by k7zpj

I have a Holmes CrawlMaster 13t in my wraith. Lots of Torque for crawling with pretty good speed for the trails. If you want faster than that you will need to go with a sensored brushless motor.

I ordered the HH Crawlmaster 11t today along with their BR-XL controller.
Note to self - buy some more spare parts...
Now I'm sleeping at the mailbox waiting in anticipation!

[TheScaleAddict]

Originally Posted by LuvMyTJ

I ordered the HH Crawlmaster 11t today along with their BR-XL controller.
Note to self - buy some more spare parts...
Now I'm sleeping at the mailbox waiting in anticipation!

Whew... I thought I was the only one. I call our mail man Santa Claus.

[zkid009]

Originally Posted by k7zpj

I have a Holmes CrawlMaster 13t in my wraith. Lots of Torque for crawling with pretty good speed for the trails. If you want faster than that you will need to go with a sensored brushless motor.

are you running that 13t on 2s or 3s?? also how does it do crawling??

[Newfiebullet]

first thing I broke was a Chub, then knuckle, then lower link (rtr) then front upper shock mount

[k7zpj]

Originally Posted by zkid009

are you running that 13t on 2s or 3s?? also how does it do crawling??

I am running 3s.
It crawls really well. The CrawlMaster Pro 540 has a 5 slot armature which gives really good low end control. A 13T 5 slot motor is about the same speed as 27T 3 slot motor. You have to compare Kv instead of turns for motors with different number of slots in the armature.

The rest of the setup:
BR-XL
54T/10T 32P
Kimbrough 54t 32p Spur Gear #129
RRP Pinion 10t 32p #0100

[zkid009]

Originally Posted by k7zpj

I am running 3s.
It crawls really well. The CrawlMaster Pro 540 has a 5 slot armature which gives really good low end control. A 13T 5 slot motor is about the same speed as 27T 3 slot motor. You have to compare Kv instead of turns for motors with different number of slots in the armature.

The rest of the setup:
BR-XL
54T/11T 32P
Kimbrough 54t 32p Spur Gear #129
RRP Pinion 11t 32p #0100

Sounds awesome. I've been stuck with what motor to buy. Ill be mainly crawling but I want some wheel speed for climbing hills and playing around in trails some as well. What size pinions should I pick up? Sounds like ill be running near the same setup

[k7zpj]

Originally Posted by zkid009

Sounds awesome. I've been stuck with what motor to buy. Ill be mainly crawling but I want some wheel speed for climbing hills and playing around in trails some as well. What size pinions should I pick up? Sounds like ill be running near the same setup

If you stay with the 80T 48P spur gear then you will need a 16T pinion.

I stripped out the spur gear so I upgraded to 54/10 32P. The part numbers were in my previous post.