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I installed the beef tubes into the VP axles today. Took a bit of grinding to get them to fit properly, but this was expected. Looking forward to seeing how my Wraith climbs with this extra weight (including the new wheels); it climbed incredibly well before these mods.... hopefully like a spider now! I also threw a pair into my son's AX10 Deadbolt front axle, that was a very straight forward installation.

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I'm so torn between stock cage and fastback mod,how did you decide?... I must have both! Looks awesome man

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Thanxs. I do like both versions too. I just can't leave well enough alone and I wanted to personalize my Wraith, so I decided to do the fastback mod.

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I know exactly where you are coming from! It definitely looks awesome!

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Yeah, frontal weight is key for crawling with the wraith. I have some RC4WD steel rims with Underground Crawler weight-able spacers. My front wheels (with tyres) weigh like 4 or 5 pounds! :flipoff: My truck weights nearly 11 pounds! :lmao:

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off topic, but where going for a crawl in vic tomorrow, couple sxc10's and my twin hammer, txt me if you want to join! (25O-732-O3l8)

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That was me that replied in your FB post!!!!

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HA never put together your user name on here :p

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Well...... I bit the bullet and ordered up the MMP and Tekin ROC 412 3100kV. I also added the upgraded Axial motor plate, which I'm hoping will work fine with this motor. I will switch over to a 32p spur and pinion too. I wasn't going to order these parts for my Wraith because I am extremely happy with it's current performance and the Yeti will supplement my need for speed, but I just can't wait a month or so to get my pre-ordered Yeti!

I sure am looking forward to getting these parts in from RPP.

First post for me...I just got done with installing this same motor and esc....I am new to RC so setup was time consuming. I'd feel bad if I didn't mention this in hopes of saving you time and I apologize if you are more familiar with rc's than me and know what you're doing.

Using castle link make sure you select "crawler reverse"...drag brake set to 30% and I would leave throttle/break curve alone...use "sensored only" and use the sensor wire that comes with the motor. The motor doesn't come prewired...you will need to supply your own wire and bullet connectors( I used castle bullet connectors 4 mm)

Also I didn't see if you upgraded the gears in the axles to the heavy duty ones from axial...the ones for od/ud...if you haven't done so I would as the stock gears may not hold up with the motor.

I don't know if the axial motor plate will cause any issues...I rebuilt my trans using the hot racing aluminum housing and their light weight steel gears. I bought that single plate and spur combo from supershafty...I too am using 32p 56t spur with a 11t pinion gear...good punch and lots of torque!

Again I apologize if you know this already...I'm a noob and spent a lot of time figuring out how to set up this motor and esc.

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Thank you very much for words of wisdom btango05, I appreciate it. I wasn't sure if the motor came with the wires or not and now I know; I will pick some up at my LHS.

I'm using the stock axle gears. I've read they do pretty good. If not, I will simply upgrade them to the HD versions. The trans is already upgraded, so hopefully I should be good.

I keep hearing once you go brushless, you'll never go back.....and I'm very much looking forward to NOT looking back!

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Went for an awesome 5 hour crawl today up Mount Doug with a bunch of guys and their various rigs. I absolutely love how my Wraith is performing right now. The new Beef Tubes and heavier GearHead aluminum wheels made my machine crawl like their was no tomorrow...It was mesmerizing to see it crawl near vertical rocky terrain.

I crawled the crap outta my Wraith today and the only incident was driver induced...took a jump and landed in a way that bent my servo horn. A quick bend back straight with pliers and I was good to go.

Here's a few pics of my dirty Wraith in case no one believes it actually gets used!!!!

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Photo OP:

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The Wraith is all stripped down and cleaned up..... ready for the motor and electronics transplant. I hope the package of parts arrives this week.

Those of you running the MMP, are you using a BEC for the aftermarket servo? I have been powering my Hitec 7955 with a CC BEC @ 6.0 volts with the stock ESC. I thought I read the MMP has the capability of providing 6.0 volts to the servo if I remember correctly.

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No you need to run the cc bec for sure.

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Thanxs...BEC will be used.

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The good stuff has arrived....I must say, I love how quick RPP gets their orders out the door. Less than a week and it's already in my hands up in Canada.

The shocks and shackles are for my SCX10 F250 Truggy build, the King shock springs are for my AX10 Deadbolt and the rest is for my true love....the Wraith!!!

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I had to make my way down to the LHS to pick up some supplies for the MMP and ROC 412 transplant and ended up walking out with more than I intended.

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The MMP, ROC 412 3100kV and Specktrum SRS 4210 receiver went fairly well, although I was up until the wee hours of the morning because I took my time. Initial impressions from within my shop is that my Wraith has a boatload of new found power.

There is one issue I encountered though. When I turn the transmitter off before the MMP, the machine will rocket to full acceleration. I found this out the hard way because everything on my shop bench was wiped out when the Wraith bolted all of a sudden! It was like an Audi from the 80's (for the older folks, this will be funny). Anyhow, I went through all of the settings in the MMP and receiver and couldn't figure it out. I know the simple solution is not to turn off the transmitter before I power down the MMP...but sometimes shit happens and I don't want my Wraith accidentally going out of control, such as being out of range or if someone else may inadvertently turn the transmitter off. Any assistance with this will be truly appreciated.

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I figured it out, I had to rebind the radio and receiver and re-calibrate. It's all good now....no more unintended acceleration issues!

Now to get this machine all put back together and do some testing. I changed over to 32p gearing. My baseline will be 56 / 12 and I'll see how that goes.

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After a quick rip on the street, all I can say is this Wraith is incredible. The rubber literally spins on old rough asphalt. In a scale scenario, the power is simply violent with this new setup. Although all the drive train has been beefed up, it just feels like something has to give.....I wonder what part will be first that self destructs?

I'm hoping to get out and get this machine tested in a day of crawling soon.

This Wraith has been getting mods for the last two years now and I would like to think that I'm pretty much done now. I'm sure the Yeti is going to go thru this modification madness as well.

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So it's no longer a crawler? :(

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It sure is a crawler....it's the best of both worlds now because the ROC 412 series is made for crawling too (it's sensored). Sounds like there's a few rigs heading out for a crawl tomorrow...I will be sure to report back with how she performs.

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Looking forward to your report, and video.....lol

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Two words describe the performance of my Wraith now....."Holy Shit". If you have been on the fence with this motor / ESC combo....do not wait any longer. I am in love all over again. Goes like a bat out of hell and crawls just the same with a brushed motor, if not better because you have massive amounts of power to get the wheels spinning to power over everything! Yes, you can have the best of both worlds. In fact, I'm going to dial down the power a bit off of initial throttle because it's just too much! I learned one thing today, don't stand behind my Wraith and give 'er...my shoes were covered in dirt from the massive roosts! I better start stocking up on replacement rubber.

Now I'm having second thoughts about even getting the Yeti....this machine does it all now....ya right, I'm not cancelling my pre-order!

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That's awesome!! And if that motor is ever available in a waterproof version, I'll be all over it!

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Waterproof would be icing on the cake....but that's OK, I can live without that aspect with this machine. Maybe the Yeti will be made into a full waterproof basher! Hmmm, now ya got me thinking.

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Good photos start by knowing how to use the camera.

Looks awesome. The last few photos look to be fish eyeing.

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super nice rig there i must say im runing the pit bull xor on my wraith there great up and over almost everything they come up on

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Thanxs. I would not hesitate to purchase another set of these Pit bull tires and foams.... which will likely be sooner than later with the new power plant!

Upload your pics to Photobucket then link them to the thread using the img code.

Hey Bil....when you say it took a bit of grinding what exactly are you referring to? The beeftubes diameter or the VP axles? Or are you talking about the flange on the rear shafts?
Thanks

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It's the Beeftube that needs a bit of grinding; only need to remove approximately 1.5 mm or so to widen the groove for the screws that pass through for the shock/link mounts. I used my Dremel with a diamond shaft tool to widen the groove (it needs to be wider the inner side, towards the pumpkin on both sides, top and bottom. Then I used a small diamond coated round jewelers file to smooth the edges. Lots of testing fitting required....but it will work.

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Since I have the "fastback" mod, there's no coverage for my new MMP ESC; I'm not a mudder, but if it starts raining I wanted to give the MMP some protection from the elements. I decided to fab up a cover from aluminum flashing. It's simply pressure fits into position with tabs so it can be removed without tools. I quite like how it worked out, leaves plenty of space for airflow and looks kinda kool. It's little things like this that I love fabricating.

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Very nice!

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Thanxs.

On another note, I stopped by the LHS today and for shits and giggles, picked up a 3300mAh 4S 30C LIPO battery because one can never have enough power! Brought it home, charged it up and took the Wraith for a test drive on the street. WOW....incredible power. All of my driveline is modded up with all the good parts, except I was running the stock axle gears.....I guess I'm heading back down to the LHS tomorrow to pick up new Axial HD axle gears. The front one gave it up fairly quickly. BUT WOW, did I mention how much power my Wraith had and still able to crawl at a snail's pace?

I'll keep the 4S battery for messing around. I also picked up a 5000mAh 3S 50C LIPO battery for a spare and a 6000mAh 2C 50C LIPO battery for my son's Deadbolt. With the batteries I already have, now I have enough battery power to keep both machines running all day long. It will be nice not having to worry about conserving juice now.

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Now that I have cleaned up the parts and VP axle, I can see what went wrong. The four screws that bolt the FI Spool onto the main gear had backed out and were rubbing the inner casing, which obviously caused the gears to improperly mesh together. Lesson learned, red Loctite for the FI Spools is a must. I guess I should rip apart the rear axle as well and get this taken care of too.

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Man that ESC cover looks Badass!! Great job! You just gave me a few ideas for one of my rigs haha.

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Red Loctite ??? Are you sure about that? Cause if you want to take it off..you'll need a torch. I just got some F.I. spools for my G6..how are yours holding up?

Lol...you know that you were looking for an excuse to upgrade the gears ;-) btw I think your fastback mod is exceptional! It looks like you have an anti sway bar or something...do you?

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Thanxs.

The spools are holding out great.... so far. Not a big deal to torch the spool bolts if I ever need to remove it.

It kinda was an intentional excuse, I wanted to see where the weak link was before I hit the trail again. Everything in the tranny was perfect. While I was in there, I swapped out my 12t pinion for a 11t.

No anti-sway.... the fastback mod was built to be very tough and that's how that design came about. Ties multiple points together.

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All is good now. Picked up a pair of Axial HD 43/13T axle gears and my machine is good to go!!!!

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Another fantastic day of crawling at Mt. Doug in Victoria, BC. I know I keep going on about my new motor/ESC set-up, but man 'O man, it is truly incredible. The ROC412 3100kV motor combined with the MMP is out of this world. My Wraith is dialed in perfectly. Being able to crawl at such a controlled low speed one second and then the next second, so much power to create a dust storm. I didn't even use the 4S battery today and was blown away by the performance. For a six hour run today, I only used one 5000c 3S 50c battery and didn't even come close to draining the second 3300 3S 30c battery. It just can't get any better with this combo.

Here's some pics from today.....

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