11-06-2015, 09:33 AM | #1 |
Rock Stacker Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Kiowa
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| My FPV Wraith I've been tinkering on and off for the past several years with ground based FPV. There's a challenge that comes with trying to create a good, stable, usable video signal from an antenna a few inches off the ground. It's been a fun way to combine two of my favorite hobbies - ham radio and R/C. I've built a Summit that's been through more incarnations than I can remember, and earlier this spring I used an Axial SCX10 chassis as the basis of a smaller, indoor rover. All my builds so far have been of the 'rover' variety - more of a platform to test technologies rather than something trying to re-create a full-scale driving experience. Lately I've been getting the itch to change that... I've got a setup on my Summit rover that I'm happy with (for the moment) so I didn't want to go the Tonka Summit route (yet). I saw a few FPV SCX10 scalers, but everything looked really cramped. Then I saw this video: That setup looked perfect to me! I really liked the look of the Wraith interior, and it's a capable enough vehicle to be driven just about anywhere. I spent a few more days watching FPV Wraith videos on YouTube. My mind was made up - I was going to build a Wraith FPV scaler. Having built a few ground based FPV rigs I've learned a few things that influenced me heavily in this build:
I started searching eBay for new or used Wraith rollers. Patience paid off when I came across a used roller with a few key upgrades. It's always a bit of a risk buying a used rig on eBay, but the pictures looked pretty good. The seller was quick to ship and when I got the rig it was in great condition! It came with some nice hop ups:
I stripped it down as soon as it came and went through the transmission and the axles. Everything was nice and tight and looked brand new. As much as I liked the look of the fastback body mod on the Wraith I wanted the stock roof and rollcage in place to protect the rear of the Wraith with the video transmitter and antenna in case of a roll-over. I found an eBay chop shop rollcage and ordered a clear lexan body kit from Tower Hobbies. I threw in a few cans of Tamiya Camel Yellow and Tamiya White, then Black to back it. I love Camel Yellow... I reassembled everything, dropping the HPI 20 turn motor for an RC4WD 45 turn motor and replacing the 80/18 spur/pinion combo with an 87/10 combo. I hot glued the Holmes BRXL ESC and the Castle BEC to the frame piece the receiver box usually connects to (AX80081) and connected up the 45t motor. I installed a Turnigy TGY-5521MDHV and a 25t metal horn for steering duties. My eBay Wraith came with an aluminum lower steering link (the longer one) but was missing the upper one. Some 8/32" all thread and Traxxas rod ends provided a temporary fix until I can get something a little more pleasing to the eye. I also flipped the shock/link mounts on the axle to lower the COG a bit. The electronics stuffed under the hood I ditched the wheels and tires it came with and ordered up a set of Pro-Line TSL XL Swampers mounted onto an old set of Hot Racing aluminum beadlocks. The TSL XL tires are AWESOME! They're huge, sticky and they look just plain -mean-. The foams they come with GARBAGE. The ones I got weren't even round! I had to wet them down and heat them in the microwave to get them to expand back to a round-ish shape. After doing some reading on Wraith builds I ordered a set of Crawler Innovation Single Stage foams and a set of Double Deuce comp cut foams. I'm not sure if it's going to be smoother to have soft foams or harder ones which transfer all the load to the suspension. I've installed the single stage foams and they are light years better than the Proline stockers. Pro-Line TSL XLs My eBay Wraith came with aluminum Axial shocks. I thought for sure that would be an upgrade from the garbage plastic shocks I was used to. Nope - these ones leak just as bad. The oil that managed to stay in the bodies was 40wt and made the suspension way too slow for the smooth ride I needed, and the stock Axial red stripe springs were WAY too stiff and bounced all over the place. I replaced them with Traxxas Big Bores (TRA2662) filled with 20wt oil and I'm using a set of Losi white springs all around (LOSA5147). I had to cut the lower front bumper cross-member off with the new shocks on as it dropped the ride height even more. Compared to the Axial shocks I've got a lower ride height and more suspension travel - I'm very happy! The cut crossmember and Turnigy steering servo I used a Dinky R/C rear tub to house the video transmitter, video switch and LiPo to power the video equipment. The video transmitter is a Cricket 600mW 5.8GHz unit from Ready Made RC. I'm using a set of FatShark spiroNet circular polarized antennas on the video transmitter and receiver. I removed the driver's side seat and put a Ready Made RC Mobius pan/tilt kit in its place. I'm using a Mobius wide angle lens camera for my main camera and a Ready Made RC Pico Wide camera for my rear backup camera. A three-way video switch from GetFPV.com allows me to switch between cameras from the transmitter. The Dinky R/C bed tub housing all the video electronics The Mobius camera ended up really stuffed into the cab. The lens almost touched the steering wheel and its size limited how far it could pan & tilt. You can see in the picture below what I'm talking about. The Mobius camera stuffed up against the steering wheel The layout of electronics on the cage, you can see how little room the camera has to move around I ordered an 8" extension cable for the camera lens off of Amazon. This allows you to take the lens out of the camera housing. I put the camera housing into the Dinky R/C tub and was able to shave down the pan/tilt mounting plate quite a bit before attaching just the camera lens to it. The difference was just what I wanted! The lens is now in the same place a driver's head would be and the view looks perfect from the video feed! The lens outside of the housing sitting on the shaved down pan/tilt mount The Mobius case now sits in the Dinky RC tub with the rest of the video electronics I cut up an old piece of lexan to use a cover for the Dinky R/C bed. The hood is held on with high strength velcro. I run a 4s 1500mah battery under the hood to power the car and servos and a 1000mah 2s battery sits in the rear bed to run the video gear. I'm using a FrSky Taranis transmitter for control paired with a FrSky long range L9R receiver. The L9R comes with two external antenna which a glued to crossmembers under the hood. There's a set of aluminum lower links sitting on my bench waiting to go on. I'll post up some video as soon as I can get her out for a good test drive. For now, some picture will have to do! Profile shot Peek-a-Boo Can't show off a build without flex shots, right? My FrSky Taranis transmitter |
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11-06-2015, 10:03 AM | #2 |
Rock Stacker Join Date: May 2014 Location: Ontario
Posts: 79
| Re: My FPV Wraith
I gotta say, that is freakin awesome! the video you posted is cool, and with what you have done, I can only imagine! and a reverse camera to boot!! |
11-06-2015, 11:09 AM | #3 |
Newbie Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Earth
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| Re: My FPV Wraith
Looking great. I've been debating if I want to go with head tracking on my Yeti. Won't be surprised to end up down that path as well. |
11-06-2015, 01:35 PM | #4 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: SoCal
Posts: 135
| Re: My FPV Wraith
what kind of range can you get out of the transmitter. I have been thinking about doing this to my wraith, However I know nothing about FPV. It seems like you have to build your own system so it works well.
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11-06-2015, 03:31 PM | #5 |
Rock Stacker Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Kiowa
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| Re: My FPV Wraith
Osteo - Thanks man! I appreciate it! Inverted - Thank you too! I'm not running any head tracking yet, the pan/tilt is running of the control sticks on the transmitter. I use a flatscreen monitor more than I use my googles, so I like having manual pan/tilt control. |
11-06-2015, 03:31 PM | #6 |
Rock Stacker Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Kiowa
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| Re: My FPV Wraith
blarouche - The video transmitter I'm using will go pretty far as long as you have a clear line of sight between the antennas. People using this system in the air have gone a mile or two out with no problem, but in the air there are no trees, rocks, buildings, etc to block the signal. The way it's configured now I can probably get 200' or so in any direction pretty reliably. The lower the frequency you use for video the further out you can get, but the antennas get bigger and the video quality drops a bit. My FPV Summit uses 1.2GHz for video instead of 5.8GHz and I've taken it out over half a mile with no dropouts. I know it can go further, but I just haven't found a big enough place to try yet! I built this Wraith to be an FPV trailing rig, if that makes any sense. I want to be able to trail with it, and when I find an interesting place I'll stop and put the goggles on and drive FPV for a bit. So I built it knowing I never was going to drive it very far out of sight. If my goal had been to drive across a few blocks in the suburbs way beyond my line of sight I would have done things a lot differently. What kind of FPV driving appeals to you? Maybe I can point out some equipment that might work well for it... |
11-06-2015, 03:41 PM | #7 |
Rock Stacker Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Kiowa
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| Re: My FPV Wraith
It's a cold, but sunny and clear day here in Colorado. I took the FPV Wraith out for its first real test drive and was really impressed! It was nice to sit in my warm kitchen driving on such a chilly morning. The terrain is nothing too exiciting, I was just cruising around the yard but everything worked and looked great! |
11-06-2015, 03:51 PM | #8 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Milpitas
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| Re: My FPV Wraith
Nice. Good strong signal or is that a recording only? I did this with my scx10 and fatshark rig but because it did not pan I was always paranoid when turning afraid a car/ person was coming from the side.
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11-06-2015, 04:46 PM | #9 | |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: SoCal
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| Re: My FPV Wraith
I was thinking of an urban rig, like exploring around the neighbor hood, there are also old schools, and building complexes that would be fun to explore. It seems like the minute buildings get in the way, it is going to drastically reduce the distance. thanks for the info. Quote:
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11-06-2015, 07:29 PM | #10 |
Newbie Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Lisbon, CT
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Definitely cool. The video clarity and smoothness is great.
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11-06-2015, 09:02 PM | #11 | |
Rock Stacker Join Date: May 2014 Location: Ontario
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I just picked up a 3S battery from a guy up here near my house, he has a small business selling parts for drones (apparently his engineering degree paper was on drones) he has some new Gimbal rigs he was trying to get me interested in what he was describing was also cool, I can now see the draw to them! D | |
11-08-2015, 11:30 PM | #12 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 476
| Re: My FPV Wraith
This stuff is really neat! Is there a forum or something I should be looking at for more information? I'd love to have one of my rigs set up to roam the hills.
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11-09-2015, 06:26 AM | #13 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: May 2015 Location: nesbit
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Very cool! Good idea
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11-09-2015, 08:52 AM | #14 | |
Rock Stacker Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Kiowa
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| Re: My FPV Wraith Quote:
That's the recording from the camera, not what's coming over the air. Since I was still experimenting with the setup I was careful to turn back anytime the signal started to drop out, so it's also a pretty good indication of range with the receiver about a foot off the floor in the garage. | |
11-09-2015, 08:52 AM | #15 | |
Rock Stacker Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Kiowa
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| Re: My FPV Wraith Quote:
Buildings in the way are always going to cut into the signal, but what you're talking about is certainly doable. The lower you go in transmit frequency, the better the signal will be able to penetrate objects. You might have real good luck with 900MHz or 1.2GHz for something like that. I used an SCX10 chassis with open diffs and a 1500mW 900MHz transmitter for an indoor rover, and it was able to get through brick walls, concrete, through floors, etc. Your receiver antenna makes a huge difference too. You can get higher gain antennas, which narrow the antenna's field of view, but increase how far it can 'see' in that field. A high gain directional antenna would help you penetrate through a lot, but it would always have to be pointed in the direction of the vehicle. | |
11-09-2015, 08:53 AM | #16 | |
Rock Stacker Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Kiowa
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| Re: My FPV Wraith Quote:
Most of what I've learned about all this I've learned by lurking on FPVLab.com. They've got forums over there, and one specifically dedicated to ground rigs called 'Ground Pounders". It's definitely worth taking a read through some of the builds to get an idea about antennas, frequencies, etc. There's a dude on FPVLab and a lot of the other forums called IBCrazy (Alex Greve). He's also got a YouTube channel as well. He's an antenna GOD and has forgotten more about antennas than I'll ever hope to know. I try to soak up as much knowledge as I can from him. Feel free to ping me too if you have questions or just want to chat about things. I'm no expert at this, but I've been having a lot of fun and learning a lot along the way! It definitely adds a new challenge to R/C! | |
11-09-2015, 08:54 AM | #17 |
Rock Stacker Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Kiowa
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| Re: My FPV Wraith
Thanks for the kind words everyone! I had a BLAST with my FPV Wraith this weekend! It was a sunny, warm beautiful Colorado weekend. On Saturday I fired up the old lawn mower (24" wide blade) and cut a path through some of the tall prarie grass growing on our property. The grass and brush has been growing all summer and stands about hip height now. It made for some very cool looking 'trails'. Yesterday I put the receiver up on top of a retractable 20' antenna mast and drove over an area 3-4 acres in size. I had no fuzz, no dropouts, just clean video. I didn't try to go any further because that was plenty of space to roam around in! The mast takes about 10 minutes to setup alone and comes back down in half that time. I'm super happy with this setup! I'm uploading a clip now of me exploring one of the 'trails'. I'll post back soon when it's ready... |
11-09-2015, 09:26 AM | #18 |
Rock Stacker Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Kiowa
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Cruising my homemade trails... |
11-09-2015, 09:58 AM | #19 |
Newbie Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Colorado
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Outstanding! That's a helluva job you've done with this. 73 :-) |
11-10-2015, 07:42 AM | #20 |
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