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08-25-2010, 09:18 AM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: on a Big Rock
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|  The XR10 will be the BEST out the box crawler to date, and it will be a GREAT platform to build future comp rigs. Will it be as tough as some other fully built comp rig out of the box? Well just say if is.... it will be 1st in the RC industry were UPGRADES and after market parts rule the day! IMO anybody who thinks or says this kit won't need upgrades or aftermarket parts is full of crap. |
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08-25-2010, 09:49 AM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: By a lake in Thornton
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In regard to "all the bad things you have heard" and people who have things breaking....... its weird how those problems are all plaguing specific individuals but those who have posted 10+ page build threads about the XR10 love it and have had no issues I.E. all the guys who got the rigs before they were released, and all those who have been in this hobby for 5+ years...... thier rigs work great. But I guess not reading the instructions carefully, and using a screw that is too long and jamming it into the gearcase would be Axial's fault and a production issue  when it comes to a waste of money, I look at the $1500 i have in my AX10 and shake my head in shame. then I look at an XR10 kit for $300 and realize i could build a bully and berg killer for about 6-7 bills total.  |
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08-25-2010, 09:50 AM
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08-25-2010, 10:19 AM
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i appreciate everyones opinions and insight looks like imma end up keeping my ax and still gonna end up getting a xr, how much different is it to drive a moa than a shafty. does it take much getting used to
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08-25-2010, 10:59 AM
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08-25-2010, 11:29 AM
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08-25-2010, 11:48 AM
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I can't wait for my XR-10 to show up, and suck the last few precious moments I have left out of each and every day |
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08-25-2010, 12:37 PM
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It's really funny how you guys gang up on someone who expresses any concern about the XR10. I've ordered mine and I can't wait to get it. As far as people having problems because they used the wrong screw: that is not necessarily their fault. As a product manager and a former product designer I will tell you that poorly designed UI or documentation can cause users to use the product incorrectly. That is the manufacturers fault. I haven't seen the manual for the XR10 so I don't know how clearly that particular step is explained, but don't leap to the conclusion that it's purely the customer's fault. I'd bet a lot of money that, if he were able to do it all over again, the guy who wrote the manual for the XR10 would have done something differently for that step. It's not a big deal but don't sound like such a fanboy and keep insisting that Axial can do no wrong. I mean, wow, some of you were hurling personal insults at this guy. On a related note: kudos to Axial for amassing such a large army of fanboys! That's not easy to do and it's a huge asset (and can be a huge pain in the @ss). Looks like I will be joining their ranks soon. |
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08-25-2010, 01:21 PM
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Ive seen the instructions, in person...They are clear....You just have to read it right. So is it still the fault of the product? Last edited by fa1rch1ld; 08-25-2010 at 01:29 PM. |
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08-25-2010, 01:37 PM
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(sigh...) 1. Clarity is subjective. 2. This isn't an binary issue. The point is that a leap of logic to point out that this is ALL the fault of the customer is just as erroneous as the leap of logic that this is ALL the fault of Axial. Is it the fault of the product, you ask? It absolutely could be. And that fault could be shared by the customer who didn't look closely at the instructions. The manufacturer of a product carries the burden of assuring customer satisfaction, and in the case of product that the customer must assemble, the burden of making sure they are successful at that task. 3. Determining quality requires a sliding scale. If your new XR10 came with just one big exploded parts diagram and said, "you figure it out" you would be pissed, right? If it were a 500 page manual that showed each part from 12 different angles with a 500 word description of each step you would be pissed, right? So when you're somewhere in the middle of those extremes you will find some people who are effected because the instructions weren't clear enough. That could simply be a note next two the two screws used in the step that says: ATTENTION: Make sure you use part #xxx as using the longer screw could cause damage to the transmission. Believe it or not, many RC manufacturers do this quite commonly (Xray, Kyosho, etc). Not saying this was necessary for the XR10, because I haven't seen it's manual yet, but it probably would have prevented the problem. 4. Messing up when you're following the directions doesn't mean you're an idiot. I guarantee that we've ALL done it before. Or to put it more simply, fanboy gang bangs are just silly. Relax. BTW, fa1rch1ld - I grew up in Granite Bay. Is the lake still bone dry? Last time I was there I took a great picture of a sign that was supposed to be out in the water that said something like, "No swimming beyond this point" and it was standing in the middle of a huge dirt flat. There wasn't any water within a 100 feet of it.  Last edited by mdowney; 08-25-2010 at 01:56 PM. |
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08-25-2010, 01:49 PM
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08-25-2010, 01:58 PM
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08-25-2010, 01:58 PM
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I love when someone makes a claim about something, without actually having hands on knowledge of that something. Even funnier when people don't like how others state their opinions but freely state their own opinions. Nothing is perfect out of the box. There is always someone who can screw up even with perfectly good instructions. It has even happened to me a time or two. In the end Axial is a stand up company and have made the crawler/scaler hobby what it is today. While I am not jumping up to get one of these right away, I am glad to see it. I instead plan to spend my time becoming a better driver with my LCC, then when I feel like the rig is the only thing holding me back I will upgrade. |
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08-25-2010, 02:07 PM
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I expect people to voice their opinions on a forum. If they gang up on someone and start insulting them because they asked a question I'll certainly voice my opinion and call them on it. I suppose my hope is that it will help promote more level-headed thinking in the future. I can only hope... | |
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08-25-2010, 03:58 PM
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well, i assume after you get over the "sh__!" "i cant believe it just did that" factor, you'll just be a better driver |
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08-25-2010, 04:40 PM
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08-26-2010, 10:15 PM
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The transition to an MOA is not that hard in my opinion. I went from a sportsman to a bully not to long ago. I'm still learning when to use the dig and the little qwerks of an MOA, but it makes me look better than I am. The biggest change for me was the going to a twin stick xmitter. If you stay with a pistol grip I would bet the transition for you will be relatively easy. Good luck
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