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Old 12-21-2010, 12:49 AM   #1
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Did the 9mm mod and vp cases still runnning stock gears.after making all of that strong now I broke a universal.that tells me stock gears are pretty strong haven't needed to put my h/r hd gears in.
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Did the 9mm mod and vp cases still runnning stock gears.after making all of that strong now I broke a universal.that tells me stock gears are pretty strong haven't needed to put my h/r hd gears in.
By making these improvements, 9mm mod & cases, you've merely moved the the weak link to the next component in the drive train.

I don't recall reading any universal joint failures as of yet until you thread.

What motors are you running?
2s? 3s?
what pinion's?

Under what conditions did you break it?

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I broke one 15 sec into 1st run. I think the C broke and the the shaft went since nothing wss holding it.
Have not had any issues after replaceing c's and knuckle with VP, but I did notice the replacment shaft was a bit different and has a very slight rub at full lock. Just enough to remove the paint.

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Stock pinions

Broke in almost full lock dig.
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Damn, I hope that was a fluke, I just put the XR universals in my scaler.
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Broke in almost full lock dig.
Duh. That's the weakest position you could put an axle in. Full lock, ANY axle in ANY rig is most vulnerable. I don't care who made the axle or what it's made out of.


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Damn, I hope that was a fluke, I just put the XR universals in my scaler.
Read.


I've been running the same type of axles in my Twin Force supers for years, throwing a shit ton more power at them than anyone thought about running in an XR10....in a truck that easily doubles the weight of any XR10. They are still like new today. I do have them maxed out, that truck will turn a 360 inside it's own wheelbase.

END POINTS people.
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END POINTS people.[/QUOTE]

I said this same thing when everyone was mad about the LCC. They all were like (I broke a cvd at full lock). Just because the manufacture says it can turn that far, dosent mean you need to turn it that far. If I need to turn a little tighter, I use dig
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Old 12-21-2010, 10:27 AM   #7
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My pins are beginning to get a little loose.

That is all.
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My pins are beginning to get a little loose.

That is all.
Turn your end points down then. Your pushing them to far.
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My pins are beginning to get a little loose.

That is all.
Mine too.
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I had some breakage on my second test run. Axial sent me a new Universal that looked like it was made a lot better than the one that came in my kit, which was from one of the first batches to hit the US. There might have been a bad batch made.

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End points are adjusted also I'm running 35t's 14 t pinions on 3s with dual fxr's.didn't really care about breaking universal just. Proved my point that the gears are pretty strong when used with the correct bearings.
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This is the first I've heard of any breaking, GOOD JOB, I wondered what it would take. I have one that tweaked in a fall, but that's understandable, suprised it didn't snap instead.
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Duh. That's the weakest position you could put an axle in. Full lock, ANY axle in ANY rig is most vulnerable. I don't care who made the axle or what it's made out of.
I was no complaining. I just said what happened.
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Hey, hey, hey guys. Reflections was just saying the fusable link is now the u-joints, and you were just post about the break. Its all good in the hood guys.
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I was no complaining. I just said what happened.
Maybe you didn't catch the tiny bit of sarcasm in the first part of my statement. Maybe you weren't complaining, I was just stating the fact that putting a steering joint at or past it's max, it's gonna get weak and bust....whatever it is.


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Hey, hey, hey guys. Reflections was just saying the fusable link is now the u-joints,
I was? I never said such a thing.
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Maybe you didn't catch the tiny bit of sarcasm in the first part of my statement. Maybe you weren't complaining, I was just stating the fact that putting a steering joint at or past it's max, it's gonna get weak and bust....whatever it is.




I was? I never said such a thing.
Well it was said in there somewhere.FML
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Old 12-21-2010, 02:50 PM   #17
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I broke one but it was my fault. Know your rigs limits - I crossed the line

Show me a 1:1 rig anywhere that you can just get in and hammer all day long with no breakage. Thruth is you have to be very calculated with your every move on the rocks to keep your rig running.
How many times have you been 1:1 wheelin and some newbie starts hammering the throttle and ends up towed or trailered home.
You're going to break something, sometime anyways so you better make it last.

Set endpoints, don't hammer yourself out when fully bound up, and try not to land on one wheel when your rig falls. Those three things will help you a lot. Respect your rig and it will perform for you
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axial, vp,lets get goin on some titanium cvds unless you crazy bastards can think of something stronger

Sorry guys but titanium isn't strong enough for axles
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By making these improvements, 9mm mod & cases, you've merely moved the the weak link to the next component in the drive train.

I don't recall reading any universal joint failures as of yet until you thread.

What motors are you running?
2s? 3s?
what pinion's?

Under what conditions did you break it?
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Well it was said in there somewhere.FML
@jeepkid....Look up.

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axial, vp,lets get goin on some titanium cvds unless you crazy bastards can think of something stronger
I want 300M universals.
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